Mobile Linux OS options in 2020!

Which Mobile Linux Operating Systems can we begin to use in 2020? This video discusses the 5 different platforms that will be ready in early 2020 and the current state of each. Which of these will work with the Pinephone and the Librem 5? Which are intended only for older phones?

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[houghwhite]

The first pinephone call feels like the first phonecall ever in the world

[MadCowMusic]

Can't wait to try out one of these new callphone hitters! This will hopefully trigger a new paradigm shift in the market!

[anthonyfmoss]

Exciting times hey? Was a little disappointed at the Pinephone delay, but as you say Rob, perhaps the software will be more ready by then. Looking forward to testing various OSs. Good comparison thanks of the strengths and weaknesses of them all. Interested to hear the results of your research into the telemetry or otherwise in SailfishOS. Sounds a good contender if answer is good. Am in EU at present, if Brexit happens then won’t be! Glad to be on this journey with you and the others in your community here and on Brax.

[esould]

My opinion regarding smartphones, is that their OS must not be a powerful one (that may lead to be easily compromised) but as restricted as possible. It must only allow basic operations and the communications encrypted by default. Very rarely someone needs a desktop application or something very technical.

[hoherspatz]

I installed sailfish os on my Xperia phone. Works good 👍. You can get it here in Germany

[TheKeule]

Sailfish OS is not necessarily paid software. There are community ports to other phones, which are free. I got Sailfish for Fairphone2. Also no regional restrictions.

And even with regional restrictions.. get a VPN to buy it. Or ask someone from the EU - like me

[WedgeStratos]

Worth mentioning that Sailfish OS is still an open-source project. Sailfish X is the consumer and business-focused project that Jolla uses to license the OS out, and offer actual support for the OS and for the features like Alien Dalvik. Anyone can grab the source code and make it work on any other phone using libhybris, including the OnePlus series as a great example. There's even members of the Sailfish community porting Anbox to Sailfish, so the community ports can have Android apps as well. Also, if you have a more modern Sony phone, the Dalvik is built on Android Oreo, making it more modern, efficient, and compatible.


I simply used a VPN to bypass Jolla's storefront geoblock, and bippity boppity my card is chargity, and my Sony is Sail-fishy. I love the whole OS, it feels like it belongs on Sony's lineup, and no, there is no Google telemetry, that's on you if you decide to go out of your way to install Google services (which will require you to manually extract the Android base image they provide in Sailfish X, add those APKs as systemapps, and then squashfs the whole thing back, a feat that's not even really possible on the phone itself, so you'll be in a full SSH session before you can have Google Play). microG core works fine!


Jolla has already made Sailfish X available to the Planet Computers Gemini PDA, and we may see it come to the F(x)tec Pro1 pretty soon, and most likely on the Pinephone as well. I think Sailfish is the most appreciable leap in UI design among the flock here, even if the overall UX itself suffers a bit, having that same problem as Ubuntu Touch. You kinda need to be prepared to put both hands on your phone to do things correctly.

[Walkeranz]

Nothing to contribute except use. Hooray Linux!

[PolakeXD]

I'm personally not really a fan of Ubuntu Touch.
I prefer SailfishOS which I run on a Xperia 10 plus. It's really stable and I can apply my own patches via Ssh on my ThinkPad

[DSTechMedia]

I've been rooting for Sailfish and Tizen to become viable options for a long time now. Sailfish is pretty mature, but Jolla's licensing represents serious problems from what I've read. UB-Ports is doing great work from what I can tell. I haven't followed Postmarket OS too closely, and LuneOS is another open/community effort, but it's unclear what the main contributors goals are. I feel like the real thing stopping us from having mobile Linux OS is the drivers that are tied to so many SoC/Baseband Controllers inextricably. This prevents being able to port Ubuntu-Touch and the other systems with agreeable licenses to more devices. Without the devices no users and no devs. Halium addresses this in some ways, but still slow progress. Purism's approach has alot of steam and capital, but it's a single device. Anyways, first video of yours I've seen, and I'm glad I found your channel, subscribed :)

[PhG]

Great video, looking forward to see more !

[maxsievers]

Software is either proprietary or free. If you pay for it doesn't concern the differentiation between those sole two categories. There is no point in getting away from iOS and Android to another proprietary system.

[haliesymmons]

Thanks for this video, this is exactly what I wanted to know.

[cslingford]

Thankyou Rob for your informative videos about the exciting news about Linux Smartphones!!

[amye]

This man, smiling ear to ear. Kid in a candy shop.

[janedagger]

I finally got a Nexus 5, not 5x, and yes, its now a Touch phone. !

[benjaminmartin]

I have successfully installed Ubuntu touch on a 1+1 and it works ok. It is very stable like you said but some buttons are to small. Probably the only reason that I don't use it for my daily driver is because of whatsApp. which doesn't work very good even with the multiple web apps. I have tried a couple of them. I would like to switch away from whatsapp because it is owned by Facebook. But all my friends are on whats-app and its is used for business quit alot too. I would like an app for whatsapp but one that actually installs on the phone and not just a webapp.

[edmondenterprisesgrouphold]

a lot of info thanks for taking the time to explain everything

[jolladevices]

13:15 There was an update, Sailfish OS on latest devices (Xperia XA2, Xperia 10) can run Android 8 apps.

[tomaslt]

if you distros listening - running server from Linux phone that only thing i'm looking...
Converting old phone to arm 64 bit server