The Controversial Changes in Sonic X Shadow Generations

Today I wanted to talk about Sonic X Shadow Generations (again).

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Footage:
FCPlaythroughs - Sonic 06, Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes, Sonic Riders, Sonic Frontiers, Sonic Generations

LongplayArchive - Sonic Riders Zero Gravity, Sonic Battle

Music:
Joey Pecoraro - Jazz Mango

#sonic #sonicxshadowgenerations #sonicthehedgehog

[UselessSet]

5:26
Knuckles: where is my island?
Suspiciously Island shaped sonic:

[peckneck]

So basically in this wonderful rewrite it seems like classic sonic ate knuckles' island because he awkwardly touches his belly after knuckles asks about the island...

[Reflectionnal]

I think why they referenced stuff in frontiers is since the timeline got shat on and no one knew what was canon and not, so they decided to throw in references to older sonic games so people could know what was canon or not

[Raincloud]

About Amy:
The cutscenes were changed, but her dialogues in the white space still include her flirting

[Akanint]

1:45 The original take actually worked better as an in-joke. Tails wouldn't recognize Green Hill, because he's never been to Green Hill. The game he debuted in had Emerald Hill.

[benjamingesinski]

This might sound nit picky, but I liked how the original Generations didn't show Classic Eggman until the end of the game. That way it keeps the surprise that the 2 Eggmen are working together by making you think there was only one Eggman.

[darrinlyons]

"and that pink water makes me really nervous" now THAT'S how you do a call back. not even just to Sonic 2, but to the feeling of hearing that Drowning jingle lol

[DelusionalDunmer]

2:27 I would like to add that Sonic does canonically recognize Green Hill. We all know the infamous line in Sonic Forces "Green Hill is looking a lot more like Sand Hill right now"

[Preteristboy]

The funny thing is that the only changes made to the Japanese version besides the visual changes are Sonic's additional lines after saving his friends. Other than that, no changes were made to the script.

[Mr.Selyumor]

The weirdest part is that these changes are ONLY in the English script. Makes me wonder what’s the deal on the American side of things. Also I think we’re putting too much agency on Ian Flynn, I don’t buy that he has the power to alter characterisation or designs - I’m pretty sure it was an executive decision based on some bogus focus test or market research or another.

[DarkkirbyKRPG]

Fun fact about the Sonic monologue lines in Frontiers: They will only happen if Sonic does not enter a combat sequence, a Cyber Space stage, a boss fight, or interacts with a puzzle for at least 10 minutes (might also include platforming segments but I am unsure). If you somehow managed to do that and still didn't get one, it's also because collecting a ring resets the timer. Yeah.

No idea why they wanted to make getting these lines so hard, but there's a mod for the PC version that makes them trigger from either every 35 seconds to 2 minutes regardless of what you do.

[AngelLopez-cyfw]

Honestly only change that bums me out is that Knuckles doesn't get sent flying because Strong Amy will always be my favorite Amy

[promaster]

This game's remake is like gaslighting yourself that you were a better person in the past than you actually were

[LolipooChimichanga]

There are few reasons why the dialogue feels like a downgrade at least to me:

- They didn't change much of the animations or lipsyncing for the times they spoke in the OG game

- The changed lines are either too wordy, or too less of dialogue to fit in (example: ending cutscene when modern and classic sonic and the ending cutscene).This causes their body language to be conlicted with their actual words.

- The voice direction overall just feels lifeless and fake. Not alot of energy to their lines (Since it's been a decade since Generations so no shit lol)

I'd say the ONLY real improvement in terms of dialogue was letting modern sonic speak after he's saved each of his friends.

[lasercraft]

Amy obsessively fauning over Sonic isn't really all that funny, but her offering cupcakes to him in such an awkward way (with him also just ignoring her completely) was not a good fix.

[butchebk]

The main issue i have with the change to amy in generations is that it come at the expense of sonics character. For example the opening scene where amy is trying to hug sonic and sonic is holding her at arms length while he is talking being changed to a scene that looks like she is trying to get his attention to give him some cupcakes and he is ignoring her. Later on there is a scene where amy talks about being able to flirt with sonic after being rescued and sonic replies this isnt really the time for that in an exasperated voice. the new scene has amy talking about looking forward to being able to help sonic but does not change sonics response. this changes the tone of both scenes from sonic being exasperated to him being a jerk.

[jackkemp]

9:49 I think that change was in response to the backlash against Knuckles looking dumber over time.

[CoolCakebaker]

The only changes i have a problem with are the Classic Sonic one and Rouge's outfit. I feel like they were unnecessary, especially with the hilarious implication that Classic Sonic ate Knuckles' island. To be clear, I'm referring to the back of Rouge's outfit.

[vianabdullah]

I think people are upset that the dialogue had to be changed to begin with. It's like the Star Wars special edition changes and the "Han shot first" debacle. Feels like it's erasing the past to fit with the current state of the franchise, irrespective on whether individual changes are good or bad.

[kingades]

Amy should’ve been kept the same because in frontiers it now shows how much she’s matured and is more chill. I don’t think she should always seem that way before frontiers