Cu Chulainn Vs Achilles

[ShiftyAUs]

Rare L moment from me, Achilles win with No diff

[Balach-cc]

Now let’s try CùChulainn vs Achilles (mythologically accurate)

[YamiKaiba]

Achilles wins this.His speed and shield he can use offensively when he activates it to swallow up Cu's Gae Bolg attack, plus he could take him out before he could launch it. It would be a very good matchup. I love both of them though. Each is both very powerful and very skilled in their own right.

[morsayxd]

bro wtf, achilleus RIP APART CU, he takes everything

[FernandoBalboaRamos]

No matter how much I love my boy Cu, Achilles's proven victory during his participations in Fate/Apo and Fate/Go makes his victory assured, although I would like to address a topic at the end.
But let's see why this is, why Achilles' victory is assured although not as overkill as one would think.
For that we have to think that unless Achilles has a titanic supply of mana like the one in the Great Grail War, his greatest advantage (his chariot) would have to be used sparingly and it is likely that he cannot accelerate to the speed of light, although he can still exceed the speed of sound comfortably so it remains a more than functional weapon.

Achilles has the advantage when it comes to pure stats, his stats being:
[Strength]: B+
[Endurance]: A
[Agility]: A+
[Mana]: C
[Luck]: D
[NP]: A+
While Cu has:
[Strength]: B
[Endurance]: C
[Agility]: A
[Mana]: C
[Luck]: E
[NP]: B
His strength, endurance and agility are far surpassed by Achilles, both have bad luck, same mana.

As for Skills.
In class skills both have a [Magic Resistance] of rank C and Achilles as a Top rider has his [Riding] skill at rank A+.
In personal skills both have to prove being that both are warriors who did not fall despite the wounds have [Battle Continuity] in rank A and as demigods both have [Divinity], Achilles in rank C and Cu in rank B. Achilles has [Courage] in A + preventing mental interference from affecting them and increasing their damage in hand-to-hand combat and finally the ability of [Goddess Affection] that increases all their parameters except mana and luck, on the other hand Cu enjoys much more versatile skills such as the [Magecraft rune] that gives him a wide variety of effects, from creating limited fields to protect himself from NPs, raising his parameters to rank A (one at a time), reinforcing his NP to raise his rank, helping him escape, etc. Also as an innate ability he has [Protection against arrows] in rank B with which he can dodge launched projectiles and [Disengage] in C with which he can disengage from a battle without many problems, even the ability to dodge large NP.

As a rider he has several high-ranking NP, worthy of a hero of his level and fame.
[Troias Tragōidia] a war chariot driven by 3 famous horses (2 of them divine horses gifted by Poseidon), its functionality is simple, through continuous acceleration the speed and strength that the chariot can have increase, being able to overcome the sound barrier in a matter of moments, the limit point is the ability to attack at the speed of light (something that most Servants cannot do without destroying their Saint Grap), but this power entails an absurd mana cost to the point that one could summon a separate Servant.
Upon exiting his chariot, Achilles has 2 NP, [Dromeus Komētēs] A-rank NP of the continuously active type, the crystallization of being "the fastest human hero", making him an unstoppable force with which he moves fluidly on the battlefield, and his B+ rank hero-killing spear [Diatrekhōn Astēr Lonkhē] a high-quality spear whose most notable effect is its ability to generate a 1vs1 "battle arena" where time outside stops, here luck and divine blessings are overlooked, becoming a battle of pure skill, he also has his famous immortality granted by his mother Thetis after immersing the newborn Achilles in Lake Styx; [Andreias Amarantos] a rank B NP with which unless you have a higher divinity any attack will be useless, although it has its weak point, its heel with which when pierced its speed will be reduced by 70% and without a doubt it achieved an irremediable end, its trump card [Akhilleus Kosmos], a rank A+ NP that could well be called the definitive work of the God of the forge, is a limited field that reproduces the "world in which Achilles lived" to use it as a defense, it has an offensive method but little is known about it.

Compared to Achilles he has only 1 NP but not therefore inferior, it is the deadly cursed spear made by the master of Cu, Scáthach, with which the opponent's fate is sealed the moment his name is pronounced. The spear [Gae bolg] is a rank B NP made from the bones of the sea monster Curruid, the spear of about 3 meters has the characteristic of generating wounds that cannot be healed unless the spear disappears and enjoys 2 techniques that could well be said to be 2 separate NPs, the "thrust" technique and the "throwing" technique.
The chance-reversing thrust is a technique that reverses things so that the cause of the "spear being pushed" and the effect of "the opponent's heart being pierced" changes at the moment Cu activates the NP, the only ways to avoid it is to get out of the range of effect before the NP activates or to have a high luck parameter, since even with an EX rank agility it is impossible to dodge that attack once it has been activated.
Then there is the "throw" where the power of the curse is transformed into pure power giving it the "+" modifier, becoming a B+ rank NP, to throw it Cu takes a great distance (one hundred meters), runs half of it and then jumps to throw geo bolg, where it splits into multiple spearheads (in the case of being more than 1 target) and then detonates wildly, travels at mach 2 and can throw this np 40 meters away, apparently it can go further.

The variety here is for Achilles, but for the record, any carelessness he may have could be fatal since if Achilles does not retreat in time before the "push" takes place it does not matter if he is the fastest hero of all, he will already be dead, but at the same time I see it difficult for Achilles to get off his chariot, and in case he does, Cu is dominated by the difference in parameters.

Regarding combat skills, both are equal in spear combat, although I see Cu with a certain advantage due to the difference in spear size, without weapons the truth is that Achilles has the advantage, mainly because the Celtic warriors were great warriors with weapons rather than due to any martial style.

Therefore, with what has already been explained, Achilles wins with a medium difficulty, whether in direct combat or with his chariot, not to mention his NP with a shield like the one he has and an unmatched speed, since he has an advantage against Cu.

Now, I would like to raise the following, have we seen Cu Chulainn in his prime? During the Fuyuki Grail War Cu had as a master the priest known as Kirei Kotomine who put a restriction on him so he couldn't give his all in combat and when he could he practically humiliated Archer, he didn't have great reserves either because Kirei was a third-rate master who had another contract with another servant as well and finally we are told that within Japan Irish legends are not very recognized therefore they don't have much support from the cultural sphere.
What am I trying to say? That Cu could win if he were in Europe with a decent master, with runes he could kill the mortal horse of the trio he handles [Troias Tragōidia], forcing Achilles to fight on land in a more equal combat with similar statistics.

(damn, so much text)

[LadyDreamfyre]

Doesn't the lore say it would be a draw?

[gabrielecalabrese]

Achilles has nothing to avoid gae bolg, that's it