New Zealand rugby pundits react to shock loss to Argentina | The Breakdown

The Breakdown is back with Kirstie Stanway, John Kirwan, Mils Muliaina and Jeff Wilson as they react to the All Blacks being beaten by the Pumas in The Rugby Championship. #TheBreakdown

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[Argenswiss]

Saying that Argentina didn't play as an excuse is such a shallow and mistaken analysis. Argentina are more than capable of playing beautiful high paced rugby, but why would you do that against new Zealand? That's suicide, this isn't super rugby we aren't going to just play to your strengths, we will play to your weaknesses. If the Pumas identified how to negate your attack, Choke your options and generate mistakes to capitalise on, and you couldn't find a solution then it's on you and it is also about Argentina being smart and playing brilliantly

[georginiuss]

I am from argentina, I watch rugby since I was a kid, I play it only for one season and I am a puma´s fan of course. I grew up watching games against AB´s and I never forgot this statement: you have to have discipline against AB because if you don´t, they will make you pay that with points: Well this time, AB´s did not got discipline, and Argentina make them pay. That´s all !!

[timpawlett]

From a neutral background, the Argentina win makes world rugby more exciting as anyone is capable of beating anyone. Argentina will punish you if your discipline is poor, the proof was in the weekend's game. This will be a time to see the All Blacks show some real courage and effort to get back to No 1. South Africa, Australia and Argentina will not make that an easy task. In the northern hemisphere Ireland have already shown the way. France and England will be seeing an opportunity.

[TheGadfly]

Jeff Wilson is absolutely nuts...lol. He is praising the AllBlacks' ability to score tries, most of the time capitalizing on the opposition's mistakes, while playing poorly for large parts of the game, but when some other team does the same he somehow seems salty about it

[rocksoliddude]

It's not a shock win, it was a great win. Argentina are a competitive team in the Rugby Championship now and capable of beating anyone. These dull pundits have nothing positive to say about the Pumas, it's all "NZ should have played better". Horrendous arrogance.

[cmwenda]

Jeff Wilson way way off the mark. Argentina won that game on merit. Hopefully one day, when the emotion is less raw, he'll look at the game objectively.


Argentina started taking that game back with defensive pressure and winning back the 3 points. NZ failed to win moments, moments which the Pumas forward pack won. It got to the team, they lost composure, lost crucial set pieces and ultimately the game. The current team can't handle pressure, teams know this.

[kylelouer]

Love JK calling out Goldie. Goldie has got this weird idea in his head that the AB’s are okay. They’re not. JK is right, ; shut up Goldie the AB’s were never dominating the game

[kevinpillay]

Wilson is a real salty character. Winning is not about always banging away at an opponents try line and scoring tries . And no credit to Pumas. The coaching staff made huge errors in their changes that were made. ABs overall are now easy to play against as they can't handle any pressure in-game. Expect furher record losses to teams they never lose too.

[Mojo-IRE]

Wilson says they played no rugby as an excuse.

You play to your strengths. How could you honestly fault Argentina?

[thoughtfulprofessor]

Is Wilson mad? JK was absolutely spot on.

[npd]

As an Aussie, I actually love that you Kiwis don’t blame the Refs. The South African supporters are the biggest cry babies I’ve ever seen…. They’ve even got a dedicated YouTube channel to cry about referee decisions 😂. The all blacks will be back ….

[jono]

Argentina won without playing rugby according to Jeff... smh. The truth is this AB's squad can't handle pressure. JK hit it right on the head. There's a massive difference between process and preparation.

[justinm]

As a massive positive, what a great series of rugby we have had and incredible games. Good standards from all teams and its bringing fans back to rugby here in Aus. Full stadium next weekend in Sydney hasnt been done in a long time! NZ will be back!

[christianellis]

Jeff Wilson is the embodiment of rugby delusionality. JK the embodiment of intelligent realism.

[vernonviz]

Argentina were brilliant, getting pissed off with the AB's were shit routine, give Argentina their credit. After all isn't this what was wanted, a decent competition. The end of the day the sun sets. Go Los Pumas

[el]

As an Argentinian fan and with all the respect I have for New Zealand rugby, the seventh ranked team in the world simply beat the fifth ranked team in the world, and that is really possible, in this as in any other sport.

[MickJaggerr]

Bok fan here, the Abs loss made me feel a bit better about our loss to the Aussies 😅

[Gilescowdemdem]

My favourite part about criticising the Argentina try as being from kick off is that the ABs try was from a maul and from an error in the line out from Argentina...not exactly formidable attack from the ABs either.

[gysdewet]

They are taking away from the fact that Argentina played amazing Rugby. Definitely the best team in the tournament so far.
South Africa is in the same boat. We play one good game loose the next no consistency. Also no game plan playing the wrong players

[expat]

Thing about Argentina is they can play attacking rugby too. Ball in hand they can be slick but were to inconsistent. We (ABs)suck at the moment but happy to see the Pumas get up and really hope they become a powerhouse.