PETER BERNSTEIN: 'THE SOUND OF WES MONTGOMERY AND GRANT GREEN'

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This clip comes from the first Peter Bernstein educational video produced by "Jazz Guitar Forum" in 2015. In this clip Bernstein talks about the influence of Wes Montgomery and Grant Green.

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Great observation. The 80s, everybody seemed to be copping that chorus pedal, pseudo Metheny sound and they all sounded alike to me, but those guys mentioned in this video, Grant, Kenny, Wes.. their fingers were all the effect pedal they needed to get their own unique sound.

isaacj
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That is why I love Peter Bernstein! He is an amazing player!

rieske
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Those were the big 3 in the early and mid 60's. Polling would typically show Wes #1 with Kenny and Grant swapping places 2nd and 3rd. I used to catch them live as often as I could. Wes was and still is my favorite. The guitarists back then played without the faces, grunts, head-shaking, guitar shaking, finger vibrato that is overly present today. I get nervous just watching them, in fact, sometimes I can't watch them at all.

genec
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So true, Pete... It's quite a journey trying to make an electric guitar sound rich without using effects. But an exciting, lifelong challenge.

joerg
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Very interesting comment, about that “sons of Pat Metheny” tone of his contemporaries. Many, many of them use it (imho, Mike Moreno, Gilad Hekselman, Adam Rogers, Kurt Rosenwinkel, in a more or less deep influence).It’s a real difficult thing to avoid, this reverb-chorus paradigm.

alfbarroso
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The funny thing is that Metheny has never used chorus pedals: he claims he hates them. On the other hand I saw Jim Hall playing live a few times and he used a reverb, a chorus and a Digitech Whammy. It's all relative: the personality of the best musicians comes through whatever pedals they use. One can name a bunch of guitar players who play without pedals that he can recognize, they are not so many. Montgomery, Burrell, Benson, Martino, Pass and a few more. Also, there are a few guys who use pedals that are immediately recognizable: Metheny, Stern, Scofield, Frisell and a few more. The majority of the players don't have a recognizable tone, unfortunately, with or without pedals. In my humble opinion of course.

lezionimusicamedie
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The jazz tradition - the black music tradition generally - places a great premium on individual style. On finding "your own musical street" and walking down it. The greats mentioned all created their own sound and style - Montgomery, Benson, Green, et al. It must be said that one of the unfortunate byproducts of music school-conservatory-educated musicians is that they all sound alike. It is a good thing that Bernstein is questioning the orthodoxy and charting his own path. That's the way to real musical

GeorgiaBoy
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Reverb good. Chorus not good. Peter great.

Luke
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Soul replaced by pedals..slowdown software..few look like or none look like those they stole from unless for politricks.

travelingman