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TanStack Start is the future, and I guess the future is now

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The libraries from the TanStack collection have ALWAYS felt intuitive. But this! A collection of my favourite tools and a bunch of cool new patterns. I'm sure it's gonna be a magical experience working with this. Super hyped!

punithg

Tanstack Start Senior - 7+ years of experience.

nerd

You guys remember the good old days vanilla JS, now it's vanilla React 😭

Younex

Here comes the Zero to Mastery Tanstack udemy courses haha.

dawizze

Happy that people finally discover Tanstack router

WailRoth

Playing with this for a couple days, Tanstack router DX is just too good. I feel like it's a much better experience by a long shot than either remix or nextJS, looking forward to the future with this one. Tanstack is the goat of react DX

jon

Been using it for a couple of weeks. Nothing like it, best in class by far

yiannis_p

I'd usually make a JS framework joke, but after using TanStack Query and Table for so long I have high hopes for this. These guys know how to have a crazy good DX while also making an extremely flexible library.

The only concern I have about this is the amount of abstraction that is going on. Its hard to even tell what is doing what unless you're already deep in the weeds, If something broke in an unexpected way, it would surely be debugging hell.

wlockuz

I think the last need for this is some form of request batching. Many web apps will make requests from each component that needs data. If we could pre-render the react tree, figure out what data is needed, batch those requests into a single api all, then send it back in one response. We would save some transfer time on headers.

The other place I see benefit is that now we don’t have to call the API from within our own App to get the data. Cool stuff

bunkerkids

Your delivery is so good, that I even watch all of your ads, keep up the good work!

СергейМихеев-ея

The real enabler is tanstack router. The rest is a logical followup with some very clever ideas.

Helvanic

the new framework shouldn't scare you or make you anxious, it is not ready yet to be a job requirement. so we have a lot of time to play with it. and if you really know how to use react, using it wouldn't be hard but you may have to change the way you think of apps

jessequantum

Is it me or Theo's ads are becoming one of the best parts of each video? 😆

melmoththewanderer

Dude, the ads are sooo good. Such a great new arc

kengreeff

Your explanation of the RPC you were creating is exactly what I just went through. I tried Telefunc, Phero, tRPC, RSC, ect but they were all missing 'something'. I just wanted a way to keep my client and server in sync without all the boiler plate and loose coupling (of something that is inherently tightly coupled). RSCs were cool but not what I was looking for. I even started on a proof of concept and had planned to spend this quarter building out a type safe RPC that hooks in to SWR/tanstack query. I thought I was real clever too but apparently you were three years ahead of me and this is why I watch your videos. I scrapped this idea once I saw tanstack start a couple weeks ago and am really excited to see you covering it!

"let me know if i should do another video when [new server functions] ship" - YES all the followups

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