An Evolutionary Psychologist's Opinion On The Manosphere

Geoffrey Miller PhD gives his thoughts on red pill and the manosphere. Do modern Red Pill gurus understand Geoffrey’s work in evolutionary psychology? Is the manosphere helpful for men? Does the manosphere make men better partners?

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[BasedDad]

Where are all the good men at? Working hard, supporting, protecting, and loving their family. If they are single, they are working hard and surrounding themselves with good male mentors. My best role models were my father and several WW2 vet neighbors growing up in the 90's.

[gmonics]

"Dating apps that are really really good at matching people" 😂😂😂

[jasonmichaels]

The thing is that women know the good guys, they know the guys that truly loves and care for them, but they turn away from them until they are 30+years old, so that fear that he was talking about is bullocks

[SmarterTebya]

This scientist may know about evolution of womens behavior in the context of primitive society or tribal environment, but he doesn't seem to understand what kind of monstrous leverages in every section of life women have been given by today's laws and ethics that caused manosphere.

[eugrules]

After I honestly asked and answered MY tough questions, I realized I preferred to live alone. After that I was at peace.

[AI-ktgs]

3:30 feminism is treating men like the enemy…what do you expect?…and it hasn’t even startet at the political level, I remember this rivalry at primery school level.

[angelus_solus]

Dating apps and websites that match people on compatibility are just as worthless as those who don't. Even if you're a compatible match with a woman, if she's not interested in how you look or doesn't like how your profile is written up, she still won't have anything to do with you.

[AI-ktgs]

Women are reacting to whatever they feel in the moment and NEVER consider the male perspective…totaly disconsiderate

[Rogerholberg]

Maybe this should have included what is meant by "manosphere." Never heard of it and have no idea what they're talking about.

[axelkolle]

Couple of things: Link for the book "Mate" by Dr Geoffrey Miller please?
Zero sum: Saw that first in the writings of Rollo Tomassi. As for one of the influences that might have contributed to Rollo propagating that just read his post "Two Guitars" on his website
This resonates very strongly because of lived experience of many many men, me included. That is why it gained traction in the manosphere in the first place.

I cannot begin to describe the feeling of powerlessness I experienced in my life in the face of womens behavior at crucial times, when I as a man was emotionally vulnerable. Of course it leads the " "genuinely nice guy" " to be bitter.

The other point you overlook is that DIVORCE AND COHABITATION IS A ZERO SUM GAME FOR THE MALE. Red Pill is getting the skills to minimise the risk, Black Pill and MGTOW is avoiding the risk. But that risk is not deniable and systemic.

[markgarcia]

One can argue that part of the fuel for the manosphere is our legal system. I wonder if a governorl candidate could win his/her state simply by running on ONE major new law to be implemented: YOU CANNOT GET A MARRIAGE LICENSE UNTIL RULES AND GUIDELINES OF SEPARATION/DIVORCE ARE CLEARLY DEFINED AND A COPY IS FILED BEFORE AND MARRIAGE LICENSE IS OBTAINED
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[universalis]

"Spend some time thinking about a woman's point of view" uh, homie, at 23 years old, that's ALL that has ever been crammed into my throat. Nice try though.

Also, this dude pretending like there is an abundance of sociopaths in our society and those are the only ones women get approached by is just a joke. They are not that common. No, somebody being edgy and a dickhead is not sociopathy. Let's just be real, Mr Miller here simply projected his own self-centeredness and lack of thought onto the male population as a whole in an attempt to frame something in a light that it does not reside in, and it's very obvious.

[Mellyyr]

When will Men & Women understand they're not entitled or owed anything in life & everything in life you want has to be worked at & earnt.

[ArnieMcKinnis]

I spent time some time after my divorce in the MS/World ... Was pretty active in reading and absorbing "the behind the scenes on how the world works". But there are so few good "men" giving advice. And once you get to know some of them, you find out they are basically fake in their real life. Women are neither bad or good, Men are neither good or bad. There are crappy versions of both. Ultimately, what I found out and recognized, it's never about the other person, it's about you. Improve yourself to improve your options - it's not rocket science, it's just good sense.
For a Man, that means get your life and goals in order - be driven by something other than getting laid or having a good time - understand confidence (which comes from within and can't be manufactured) wins. Success is an inner game for men, not what car you drive, or what clothes your wear, it's who you are. And you can fool anyone for one night - and getting laid (after a while) is tiresome game to play.

[ReggieRed]

Wow! Really surprised to hear David deangelo mentioned. I read his book in high school and it changed my life. I still reread/relisten to his work to this day.

[ClassPunkOnRumbleAndSubstack]

I have some interesting online stories about the men's movement. I don't use the term manosphere because it sort of was co-opted by the PUA's but arguably began more broadly as the men's movement which included other groups that may get me censored if I type them out. 2014 was the beginning of an underground cultural wave on YouTube that I struggle to articulate, it was part toxic, but part of what it did was attempt to humanize men and boys in a way that was more moral than what seemed to have ever been done before.

[Wong-Jack-Man]

I have mixed feelings about it. It’s eye opening but at the same time you can quickly delve into this rabbit hole of this personal growth, I’m doing me agenda in this sort of vendetta rage against the system and have resentment and be judgmental towards women and even society at large. Even Chris I heard one great quote from you when in a conversation sometimes you step back and ask “am I contributing anything to make this situation worse” but rather than asking that it should be “what am I contributing to make things better.” You can go into this pigeon hole of self development that’s great but what’s the true motive? Is it to self actualize or more as a way to justify one’s existence in the absence of finding a mate. You will find after all the personal development phase all things oscillate in the ying and yang of life and that too will take a back seat to other things for a moment. Just take it easy and don’t desire too much, nor be too opinionated or judgmental and you will have a least disturbance mind in life. Peace out.

[-haclong]

01:12 This just shows how important it is to always read the latest literature and not assume that older literature is unchallenged.

[AI-ktgs]

4:51 I have spent a more than a nano-second at how women think but finding excuses for women reacting to phobias like it’s natural for women to do so is not, in my opinion, a way to call it a healty way of forming healthy relationships

[sevdev]

The manosphere is a complex beast, not just about dating or understanding female dating perspective. Also, knowledge is one thing, different conclusion then follo from that, also separated into personal adaption to political views on the current situation. Dating coaches are not "The Redpill" or "The Manosphere".