Mofi is digital | My thoughts

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I go over some of my audiophile records that include some Mofi and what I think of the use of DSD for cutting the lacquer.
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I have that same Fleetwood Mac Rumours at 45rpm cut by Kevin Gray and Steve Hoffman pressed at Pallas is the best sounding of any Rumours out on the market. I look forward to seeing what Chad Kassem does next since he is one of the only ones who can be honest with us.

lucillechilds
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This whole subject is fascinating to me after all these years people are so against digital DSD transfers
Someday I would like to compare these one steps with my originals few that I have left
Clifford Brown, Miles Davis.

louissilvani
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MSFL used digital transfers from the Original Master Tapes in 1982 for the MSFL Beatles Cassette release, so that makes me wonder about the MSFL 80s era being digital on many lps that were being made that were from a time before digital . Many were recording on digital tape starting at that time in 1979 with Ry Cooder who officially was the first to record an album on digital tape .Analogue Productions is the way to go for the best representation of staying analog where it is suppose to be if it was analog to start with . If it was originally analog it should be finished as analog on an analog material ..

VIDSTORAGE
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They play the tape ONCE, making from it a digital copy. After that any is done with the digital copy. The REASON is that every time a tape is run across a tape head it is damaged. And through time tape, if not carefully preserved, deteriorates.

In reality the fake "audiophiles" know nothing factual about the basics of recording technology, and can't actually hear the "difference" between analog and digital.

jnagarya
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That Nautilus Rumours was about the most controversial audiophile LP back in the late 70s/early80s when this all began. The editor of the Absolute Sound magazine, Harry Pearson didn't particularly like its sound; finding it thin, sharp and pinched sounding, tinny and lacking in warmth. In one issue both he & Nautilus argued back and forth about its sonic merits. It was a very lengthy discussion. He was very influential as most people know that Harry had "ears." If he said something sounded a certain way; it did. I've never heard that Nautilus version. Some people really like it. Rumours on WB was the biggest selling rock lp ever in it's day according to Billboard Magazine which keeps track of sales figures

sidesup
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So audiophiles can't tell the difference between DIGITAL vs analog? 🤔 tell me more

BigBoss-kkhq
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Just to let you know there is a 33-1/3 version that was pressed at Pallas of Fleetwood Mac Rumors that was remastered by Kevin Gray and Steve Hoffman. I heard it sounds great as well.

ericwong
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This is not about sourcing, It's about advertising. If your product isn't from an analog source, don't say it is. If it's from a digital source, say on the package that it is so. Don't charge huge amounts of money for digitally sourced vinyl when the package says it's analogue. It's simple.

ujean
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I am glad I never bought MoFi records. All my records and tapes ( except a couple or so are digitally processed and they sound crap) are pre digital era and they sound fantastic

artyfhartie
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This is all why I pretty much just buy older records (pre 1990ish), and even then I might get burned if I'm not careful.

itsjim
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@Analog Grooves missed out on the Weezer blue album vinyl. So what your telling me is that the SACD version and the vinyl are the same thing?

rustyshackleford
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Funny how times have changed. In the eighties, Super Discs boasted that they were digitally sourced. That was a big plus at that time. Now, it's a curse for an LP to be digitally sourced. On a completely unrelated note, it's "supposedly" not "supposebly".

dashriprock
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They have been using DSD since 2015 (maybe before). Earlier titles before this may be all analogue as Quad DSD has only been around for about a decade commercially. Weezer may not be the best case to use as an illustration.

classicrock
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I'm shocked that people are shocked that the Masters are DSD. Most masters done from like 1982 on were probably done on Digital Tape anyway. Too that, if there are any Magnetic Master Tapes that can still be played, they've already been copied to a digital master. Even if the Master is transferred to a DSD file, it's still the ORIGINAL MASTER. It's an exact copy of the analog tape but will allow Mo-Fi to be able to make many copies over and over, something they couldn't do with a dying role of decaying magnetic tape that's already half-past dead. To that, wasn't it Mo-Fi that damaged the Original Master Tape for TDSOTM back in the late 70's when they accidentally taped over it with their NEW master... Is this really that big of a deal? Was Mo-Fi really deceitful or did the consumer have an unrealistic expectation in the 21st century? I love SACD and Mo-Fi makes some killer SACD's, from the same source as their LP's but without the anomalies of Vinyl Records.

joey
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I don’t think people would of cared too much tbh if they labeled it correctly I think people are upset about the prices they paid for this suppose triple A suppose to be records $125 for a record is a hell of a lot corner speaker charges half of that and is triple A.

frankriquelme
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I have a Norah Jones record from analogue production what is from a digital file,

nickvanr.
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I buy records for one reason- the analog sound. Not nostalgia, not hipster cred. Not cover art (though, that can be nice) When I buy a record, I don't want a big black vinyl CD. All record labels should carry the SPARS code. As Chad Kassem would say, it's not about digital sounding good, but does it sound as good as it could be if it were an AAA recording?

greencraig
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The problem is even so called AAA records are not truly AAA because of the digital delay before the cutting lathe. It needs to be an analog delay otherwise the music will be digitally sampled. So now the true AAA records are minuscule. Sad.

stroker
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I think most of the MFSL pressings I have sound great. By far the worst I heard from MFSL was that B52’s Cosmic Thing. I thought it’s sounded gutless, cut at a very low volume and just sounded quite anaemic for want of a better word. The debut done by MFSL sounds way better, also on the silver label.

charlesgund
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I like this guy cuz he says “RECORDS!” Praise the lord. These 20 year olds that say “VINYLS” make me nuts. Yes it’s get off my lawn stuff but I can’t help it

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