EXCLUSIVE REVEAL - The REAL Reasons Why Grindelwald LOST To Dumbledore

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I wanna talk about Gellert Grindelwald’s epic battle with Albus Dumbledore that has been hailed as the greatest duel of all time. Dumbledore’s victory was extremely important as it spelled the end of Grindelwald’s campaign and basically the end of grindelwald ever being seen in the public eye again..Now we won’t see this epic duel until the last fantastic beast movie but based upon the evidence that we do have in addition to being able to analyse the relationship between the 2 wizards, I’ve come up with 3 pretty solid reason as to why Grindelwald lost to his former friend and I’m going to take you all through those three reasons today so lets talk.

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Consider this. Grindelwald is an accomplished seer. He has excellent views of the distant and near future. Perhaps in one of his visions he sees himself living in his home in his old age, and Dumbledore still loving him. He may, for many obvious reasons, believe this to be a sign that he wins the war. Also he may have lost the duel with Dumbledore because his heart wasn't in it and he realizes that Dumbledore still loves him.

ProfCuneusStern
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Dumbledore technically bested Grindlewald during their last duel in The Crimes of Grindlewald also. Their duel was a stalemate, but Dumbledore achieved his goal in destroying the Blood Pact, so i believe that will factor in how Dumbledore defeats Grindlewald.

I also believe that Grindelwald will eventually realize that he does indeed love Albus, and cannot go through with killing him. Factor this with the fact that Dumbledore had achieved his goal in Crimes of Grindlewald, I believe the Elder Wand will change it's allegiance to Dumbledore.

that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG
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Although Grindelwald was using the Elder Wand, I think Dumbledore proved himself to be the more powerful wizard. As a result, Dumbledore managed to defeat Grindelwald, and win the Elder Wand.

jorgecarbajal
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Speaking of Voldemort having possession of the Elder Wand during his and Harry's final duel, I wonder if the Wand itself could feel that Voldemort was not whole.

If the Wand can feel power around itself, it makes me wonder if it could feel that Voldemort's strength was failing due to Voldemort only being a fraction of what he should be; soul wise. With his physical appearance deteriorating as Harry destroyed Voldemorts Horcruxes, it would make sense that Voldemort would also lose power. He would still be the most powerful wizard at that time, but he wouldnt be as powerful as, let's say, if Harry hadn't destroyed his previous Horcruxes.

So the Wand failed Voldemort due to Harry being the true owner and wouldnt harm its master, we know this. But maybe it could feel Voldemorts power failing as well

that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG
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My only thing is… I like the way they are doing the magic in the new movies but their was something so cool about the elemental magic and way duels were depicted in the original movies. Like any time Dumbledore used magic. I’d like to see move stuff like that.

AlexBormel
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I think Dumbledore beat Grindelwald even though he had the elder wand because he was the better wizard and the wand noticed because Grindelwald didn't win the elder wand he stole it so that's why I think Dumbledore won the elder wand noticed that Dumbledore was the better wizard so it turned on Grindelwald

mikeseibert
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Ik that Dumbledore would never but it is scary to think that if Dumbledore where to change his mind and work with grindalwald they would be unbeatable and would take over the world

tyewallace
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I just watched the fight of Dumbledore and grendawalt and in that fight there is a point during the straight line casting that Dumbledore over powered the elder wand through sher will and determination. (The elder wand, in a sense, was bowing to him.) That is what frightened grendewalt and Voldemort. Dumbledore is a powerful wizard, PERIOD. His wielding of magic itself is uncanny, and that's not taking into account anything he learned and any magical artifacts he may obtain. Those would only serve to make him more powerful and infact a dangerous man because to much power corrups. And this is what Dumbledore knew about himself... His search for more power would corrupt him and grendawalt would most likely use him as a weapon. . And grendawalt saw all this when they were younger which is why he played on his love for him and had him to make the blood pac. If he wont stand with him or he could not use him as a weapon then he had to make sure Dumbledore don't stand in his way. And being blinded by love Dumbledore when for it.. But as it stands, the elder wand can sense Dumbledore wielding of magic is more powerful than grendawalt. In fact in that straight line casting part on the fight DUMBLEDORE BEAT GRENDAWALT.. HIS SPELL TOUCHED GRENDAWALTS WAND WHEREAS GRENDAWALT ONLY CAME CLOSE TO TOUCHING DUMBLEDORES WAND.

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I think that Grindelwald might just give up. That sounds weird but I’m preddy sure that it would be fitting because the most important message in the whole wizarding World has always been that Love ist the most powerful and so I think that Grindelwald might at first aktually win but is not able to finish his Ex off and finally sees how wrong he was. In my opinion that would be very cool to see because in that scenario we would get an epic end Battle but also a kinda cool Plott twist. Even Rita Kimmkorn said it in an interview with her, that she believes that the Battle wasn’t what it was made to be. Also an explanation why Dumbledore never spoke about the big duell later.

shadwikrosier
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What if Grindelwald decides not to use the Elder Wand against Dumbledore?

As a “I don’t need this to prove my superiority” thing or a final courtesy to his former friend.

vm
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Dumbledore was a broken youth. He was talented but very angry and lonely deep down on the inside. Dumbledore lost his father Percival because of some muggle kids attacking his sister. He had to deal with everyone around him thinking his father was a muggle hater and then his father died while imprisoned in Azkaban. He had to keep secrets because of what happened to his sister. So Albus had a ton of pent up anger.
Albus was also lonely because he didn't really have an equal in the magical world. He was seen as a powerful wizard and communicated with notable magical people but not a close relationship with anyone not even his family members. Loneliness and anger were what lead Albus to seek power and in seeking power he because something he didn't like but he also found an equal and a romantic love in Grindewalt. Albus couldn't have known that love was what he really was seeking because it was love that makes a wizard truly powerful. Love is the reason Grindewalt lost the battle, Dumbledore loved Grindewalt but he realized he loved the whole world more. That whole world included muggleborns and muggles too. So when he fought Grindewalt he was seeking to protect the world from the pain Grindewalt would undoubtedly bring to everyone. The Elder wand not only chose Albus because he was a touch more powerful but because he wasn't trying to take the wand for personal gain.
I think deep down Albus had to give up his romantic love to save the world and because of that sacrifice he was able to value the power of love and remember it was the power of love that Albus always told Harry was so powerful and to "pitty those who live without it"

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Grindelwald’s obviously still very much in love 😍 with Dumbledore when they both have their hands on the other’s heart ❤️❤️❤️ they realize they can’t hurt the person they’re hopelessly in love 🥰 with

francheskajulien
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Didnt they explain the elder wand at the end of the 8th Harry Potter movie? Draco disarmed Dumbledor in the half blood prince, and then later on Draco was disarmed by Harry? Thus why it was actually loyal to Harry in the final duel.

Larka
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Hello Dean, The things of real consideration right from the get go of Albus meeting Grindelwald:
Albus truly loved Grindelwald However Did Grindelwald ever "really love" Albus or was he
just using Albus as hinted in the books ??
As powerful as Grindelwald is he had a feeling and a fear and being that he was a sort of a see-er
that Albus was just a touch superior Wizard to him, THAT is why Grindelwald put the idea of the blood pact in Albus's mind in the first place. Obviously Grindelwald wanted to ensure his not losing to Albus.
However fate always favored the more honorable man / Wizard because his intentions were far more pure.

waynesmith
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You get a comment because that last line was as clever as can be, good job!!

benjaminneal
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I can only hope they will make a movie on the first wizarding war so people can see with their own eyes how and why Voldemort is more powerful than Grindelwald.

MagusMortloch
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if they really dueled for 3 hours then im pretty curious how they'd put that in the movie.

originalbroccolii
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They probably knew each other's body really well too

elizabethoneill
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You have a fast car does that mean you'll win every race?
It's all on how it's used.

danielgodfrey
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Grindlewald was a true seer unlike Trelawney who's abilities were stunted by drinking. I believe he foresaw that Dumbledore would be so powerful so he set up their meeting. He got himself expelled on purpose because he'd already seen ahead of time Dumbledore's letter saying it was a shame. He went to Godric's Hollow and set up meeting Dumbledore and getting the blood pact. But what Gellert didn't expect was he'd actually fall in love and truly care about Dumbledore. Despite his being defeated, he never betrayed Albus. Unlike the movie, he refused to tell Voldemort anything though he knew he'd be killed. I believe Gellert lost the duel because he loved Albus and couldn't bring himself to kill him.

katholmes