Triceratops Fought Hard And Here’s The Proof

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Everyone knows that Triceratops fought each other, right? What else were those horns for? Well, potentially defense. We’ve seen these largest of the horned dinosaurs use their horns all the time on the silver screen, but how true was this to life? We’ve seen it in movies, documentaries, and art precisely because it has long been one of the many hypotheses about how the Triceratops used its horns. Were they for display? Fighting amongst themselves? Or fighting off predators? Could it be all three and more? A new study takes a chunk out of the frill of one of the largest known Triceratops specimens to see if there was more to the frill than met the eye.
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It would make sense for the horns to have been used in multiple ways, only one use will have made the horns look completely different

walkingwithdragons
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Big John was probably a male triceratops who got attacked by another male either due to territory, food, or mating rights. I never understood why common dinosaur media depicts triceratops as this peaceful gentle giant. In reality, it was most likely highly aggressive and territorial. I always saw it as the reptile equivalent to a rhino. The skeleton alone shows you how menacing they were.

melanielemay
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I can now finally day dream palaeontolocially accurately about trikes fighting while in maths!

GeorgeTheDinoGuy
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Man, we really do need better laws for fossils.
Its ridiculous the amount of great specimens sold to private collectors.


Might be a trashy take but, fossils shouldn't be sold. They're a literal window to our past, I cant believe they're treating them like Jewelry.
They should be studied and analyzed and open to the public.
I can't believe this, I feel so disgusted by it. But it's just my opinion so what can I really do right?

isthatbraised
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I discussed this a bit with some of my peers, and they expressed a bit of skepticism about this.

One of the things that we said was that it doesn't really align with examples of intraspecific combat, as no known examples of interspecific combat involve attacking from behind. Although it's likely that this could've happened in Triceratops, it's important to consider modern analogs.

Another thing we said was that the properties of the bone don't really align with a puncture. If there's bone-on-bone contact, there wouldn't necessarily be a smooth puncture hole, but rather a hole and some fractures and cracks, because that's how bone works.

A third thing that was said was that fitting the bone horn into the hole isn't necessarily a good idea, because it's already known that cerstopsians had keratin coverings on their horns. In intraspecific combat, it would've been the keratin coverings making impale holes - not the bone itself.

That was our 2 cents on it, though. Not denying that Triceratops were fighters, but not really sure that Big John is a good example of it.

neildegrassetysonwithaknife
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Imagine being rich enough to have a freaking triceratops in your house

ecurewitz
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imagine how fuckin terrifying a adult triceratops was

heito
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“The research team on Big John’s mysterious hole determined it was gouged from behind”

Uzielsquibb
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God, anything about private fossil collectors just gets my blood boiling

A_Moose
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I definitely think it's just from ramming into other trikes. Nature is not uniform so it's possible one of them miscalculated their steps or angled their head a certain way and pushed a brow horn through the frill.

getemmemes
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Makes me so sad too see Dino fossils sold, they should have to be fully studied by law before any sales are made

crispay
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Not only they fought hard but they also played hard and stabbed eachother from *back*

There is no *fair fight* amongst ceratopsians and neoceratopsians
Imagine how bruttally they massacre the theropods

thedoruk
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I have a cool (I think) advice to pronounce kinda correctly names in foreign languages. The Google translate app has a function that let you hear what you type and it's very accurate if you select the original language. Even with dinosaurs species!

DinoEsculturas
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Big John, 🤩🤩😁😁 Big John will be on display at the Glazer Children's Museum at Tampa, Florida.

jthomas
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Maybe a museum will be able to set up a lease with the owners at some point...? Or the owners will be willing to give more samples to researchers?
Hopefully the practice of selling fossils that could be important will stop and they'll be given to researchers straight away instead. :S

Also, just wanted to give you a heads-up on some of the italian pronunciations (for the future):
Trieste = 'Tree - eh - ste'
Chieti = 'ki - eh - ti'
In general, 'chi/che' = 'ki/ke', 'gi/ge' = 'ji/je', and 'ci/ce' = 'chi/che' (using american pronunciations of the sounds). There's some more, but I don't think that they're pertinent? Hope it helps! (^_^)
Oh, and someone already commented about google translate having a speech function (which is a great suggestion), but it unfortunately doesn't have it for every language. :(

nikkypollack
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Triceratops was truly a remarkable animal!

parkerpshebnisky
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“An Allosaurus In Paris” sounds like a movie title

Eldrisaur
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"big John's mysterious hole" sounds so wrong

alobster
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Love your narration style. Thank you for being different!

badnewsbridger
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Nothing beats watching E.D.G.E while eating oatmeal with nutella smothered all over it.

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