Ranking the trebuchet bonuses/techs (Aoe2)

Ranking of the various trebuchet bonuses/techs in terms of their usefulness in treb wars as well as against buildings.

1:31 Britons
2:59 Huns
4:10 Celts
4:54 Japanese
5:48 Saracens
6:44 Tatars
7:40 Teutons
8:12 Portuguese
8:27 Other miscellaneous bonuses
9:30 Treb-war civs
10:33 Best vs buildings
12:00 Concluding thoughts

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Game: Age of Empires II Definitive Edition

[spectrummike]

Random trebutchet comparison post on a meme site was a thing that got me back into Age of Empires after /years/ of not even thinking about it. It made me realise it seems to be much deeper and more interesting game than i had capacity to experience as a child that didnt even speak english and im so glad i stumbled upon it!

[thepersonwhocomentz]

One small advantage not mentioned for the Britons is the fact that the blast damage from a Warwolf treb can potentially kill an enemy's repair villager (not sure if you need to use attack ground for this, but still) while still damaging the enemy treb.

[mariomcp]

Anytime Spirit can put Japanese #1 on a list he is there for it.

[mirinewman]

7:24 I think it's actually more advantageous for when YOUR trebuchets aren't set up yet. If they're just entering the battle, they can set up in a position that forces the enemy trebuchet to pack, move, and unpack, all while you're still able to get damage on them. PLUS, since trebuchets don't do that automatically, if your opponent is distracted you can easily take out most of their trebuchets without them even noticing until it's too late.

[SenorFlamingo]

I think Tatars deserve more love in this video. You could've included the hill bonus for the damage to buildings for example. The extra range can also be more situationally good in treb wars when it comes to positioning, it can really be a pain to fight Tatar trebs when you have to move your trebs in an awkward position and further away from your Castle.

[tyranitararmaldo]

I already love Tatars, but the extra treb range I find is very useful, especially as a cavalry civ. It lets me park further away, meaning my opponent will take longer to get their response there. While that is going on, I can do more damage to buildings, and prepare my cavalry on either the wings of the trebs or just behind and between them, to swoop in and create a blockade to shield them.

The "consciously taken advantage of" comment I fully agree with, and it's kinda funny that pretty much all the Tatar bonuses need this mindset to work at full power.

[MGFamilytree]

Super amazing tip, build 2 walls in front of your treb you will block a huge percent of stray shots, only 100% shots hit

[drakan]

fun fact: kataparuto (カタパルト) is just the closest the japanese writing system can get to the pronunciation of the word "catapult"

[zaleost]

You know I always found the exact bonus that you got from researching Warwolf to be a little odd when you think about it in relation to what made the actual Warwolf so special. That being that it was much larger than normal Trebuchet, able to destroy castle walls much more consistently. So really it should have been a damage bonus rather than an accuracy one.

[elliejohnson]

I still like tatars a lot. You can keep your trebs behind your castle and an enemy civ will have to place theirs in front, giving you a clear defensive advantage probably more impactful than the teutons, more because I value positioning of trebs over any inherent bonuses to their intrinsic tankiness.

[annaairahala]

The tatar bonus is great in treb wars because it forces the other player to bring their trebs further forward where they're less protected. That wasn't mentioned in the video which is strange to me since it's much greater than the bonus of getting a couple extra shots in as the trebs approach (though it may be worth mentioning too that a single hit destroys an unpacked trebuchet too which tatars at least have a chance at getting)

[PurpleWarlock]

SotL, in case you care about suggestions, make a video on which civilizations are the most and the least reliant on their castle techs and unique unit. Maybe add which ones have an easier time getting one up.

[dying_soup]

Cool one. A vid to tell us whether we should target the trebuchets or the castle in various situations would be nice as well.

[elkin]

I am very proud that SOTL has paid attention to my suggestion to do this top 5, I suggested it to them 3 weeks ago

[lincolnvolk]

I just love looking at the 16 + 3 on the Tatar trebs and just watching the projective go farther than the screen

[pabloluquesimon]

Top quality content in true Spirit of the Law fashion

[NeinStein]

Thirty four percentages are zero percent what we deserve, but a hundred percent what we need, thx SotL!

[edumartosjurado]

"I also like how quickly Sarracens have CATAPULTED themselves into the conversation"

[alexz]

Loved this video! Especially all the breakdowns of what the numbers really meant.

[All-shall-say-Jesus-is-Lord]

There isn't another YouTube channel whose videos I watch ASAP after seeing them posted. This is top notch quality production.