E. Jean Carroll Says Trump Will Lose In 2024

‘I won.’ Can anything take down Donald Trump? The former president—in court over his hush-money payment to Stormy Daniels—is the Republican nominee for president despite a host of criminal and civil cases swirling around him. And yet, the two women who won against him in court—twice—say he won’t make it back to the Oval Office.

“I don’t care if he’s the nominee,” E. Jean Carroll, who sued Trump for sexual assault, won, and then emerged victorious in a $83.3 million defamation lawsuit against him earlier this year, told me last night. “He’s not going to win.”

Carroll and her attorney, Robbie Kaplan (known for arguing for same-sex marriage in front of the Supreme Court, one stop on a long resume), joined me for a conversation at Fortune‘s Most Powerful Women dinner in New York. While Carroll says she thinks the American people see Trump’s true character, Kaplan takes a more measured approach. “The one thing that can bring him down are the votes of the American people in the next election,” Kaplan says. “I don’t think short of that anything can or will.”

Carroll first shared her story publicly in 2019 of being assaulted by Trump in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in the 1990s. Since then, she’s dealt with an onslaught of insults—from Trump himself, who lost the defamation suit as a result—and from others online. But Carroll says the hatred she’s received isn’t so different from what any woman experiences on the internet.

00:00 - Teaser
00:22 - E. Jean & Robbie Kaplan Take The Stage
00:45 - E. Jean Winning $83.3 Million From Trump's Trial
01:50 - How They Won Their Case
04:10 - Any Stormy Daniels Contact?
07:34 - E. Jean's Reputation Online
09:03 - Public's Discourse Of Trump
11:07 - Robbie's Cases Through The Years
13:18 - The U.S. Judicial System
14:25 - MeToo Movement's Current State
16:26 - E. Jean's Plans With The $83.3 Million
17:38 - Donald Trump's Election Future
18:47 - Women's Role In The Election

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[texasbluebonnet]

I salute this woman, and I believe she is right, we as women are going to make sure Trump doesn't get back in the Whitehouse. He is unfit in oh so many ways.

[Bobby-kpln]

Love your eneegy Ms. Carroll. Sorry for your having to be endure abuse at the hands of that horrible, disgusting, grotesque, lying, devil. God be with you always❤

[darlaleasure]

I hope America sees justice soon. Trump in jail.

[cynthiakozikowski]

I hope she is right. We cannot get complacent. Vote Blue

[snicklefritz]

I think what we can learn from this is what women have always known. Some men do not respect women and never will. We must shout out we won't allow this predatory mindset to prevail. E Jean is a fine example of someone who did not back down.

[ken-ibel]

From your mouth to gods ears🙏🏼 I hope Donald Delay Trump goes away away

[melissabruhn]

Thank you E Jean Carroll and allies!!!

[judiruthmeredith]

I needed to hear her optimism today. I’m truly freaked out by the possibility of another trump presidency

[Msanyanswer]

Women will make sure that he doesn't ever ever get to be in The White House ever. Thank you Ms. Carroll. You Rock 👏👏👏💙💙💙💙💙💙

[texasbluebonnet]

A few billionaires and corporations can't save the Republican Party!

[judychandler]

I have deep respect for E Jean Carroll..She's been through a living hell because of that self- entitled perv. And she's not alone. He has other victims out there ...

[maureenharrison]

I am so honored to be able to hear these incredible women.
Thank you ❤

[Francis.pPutnam]

A breath of fresh air, from start to finish. Well Done.

[catedney]

E Jean is a Wonderful Strong woman !!!

[texasbluebonnet]

Keep revealing who Trump really is and who he has always been.

[janetsecchi]

Dynamic duo! Divine feminine rising! Thankyou both!

[dorothypettijohn]

Ms. Carol you are the 1st to put the donald where he belongs! Congratulations, and I hope you will be the 1st in a long line of judicial wins, for women, and the USA. All thr best to you!

[susiejones]

Thank you E. Jean for your courage to bring forth your story

[darlaleasure]

Amen Ms Carol. Im so glad you got justice.

[RiverKat]

Hes going to lose by more than he lost in 2020.