How Do I Play Long 2-5-1's?

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Resident piano guru, Adam Maness, goes over some tips to playing long 2-5-1's!

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I like the attention to the V from the beginning of your conversation about the tension of the scale itself was there, so that I began to see it's relationship to so many other things

reglagirl
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Thank you Adam.
This fits greatly for Pertido’s A - section.

markokononen
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This is wonderful. Something I’ve seen and played many times but never thought about it as implying the V of ii. Love finding new ways of wrapping my head around things. Thanks Adam!

JohnHorneGuitar
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This was a really great tutorial, clearly and excellently presented and musically substantial. Thanks.

mikemathews
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very useful - thanks! What I really like about this is the use of voice leading.

jimkangas
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That's great. I've just analysed George Benson's solo on What's Goin' On and I wondered why he plays Db note on Cm chord so I understood that he just implies that Cm is II in Bbdur so he plays Bb scales - Bb ionian, Bb mixolydian and even Bb blues scale.

ildarrrr
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U guys are the best!!! thanks a million for all this information.

CarlosVazquez-emih
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On the bridge of Bird’s solo on Moose the Mooch, I always thought he was using the major 7 of the II- chord to make the augmented triad in the spot Adam is discussing. But now I see he might have been thinking of that implied V of the II. I love the possibilities this opens. Thanks!

insidejazzguitar
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For years Ive always thought: If the chords are open, make them more dense, if they are dense... simplify.

cnrbsmth
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On this subject, I would like to hear how you would deal with 2 tunes, "Avalon" and " What a Little Moonlight Can Do" really up- half note = 160 -180 and 8 to the bar. The changes are then 2 times longer and the melody sounds in 1/2 time to bass who is playing 8 8th notes
as quarter notes and the drummer is doing the same thing. I know you guys know what i am talking about. I think that when one is dealing with 4 bars of Fmaj 7 and 4 bars of C7 at a burning tempo, it
takes a lot of practice time to get that together.
But you do a good job here of giving solutions, but what i am talking about is the harmonic duration
being 2 times longer because of the afore mentioned songs already having long harmonic duration
Or take " Darn That Dream" starting as ballad, quarter note 60mm, and tripling up. This was happening
in New York back in the 70´s when i was there. I picked up on it from George Coleman´s bands. But that was around during my New York period, and It is a tremendously energy builder.

bobblues
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I thought this question was already answered by Donna lee ? 🧑🏽‍🚀

afxmnstr
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Great explanation...Jerry coker in his book elements of jazz...calls it cesh..chromatic elaboration of static harmony

rickg
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Awesome lesson. I was recently thinking this exact same thing. I was thinking everything is too diatonic in these long 2-5s! How do I add chromaticism?! Trying different scales and stuff. You hit the nail on the head.

clintjones
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For me personally, mybears perceive a Ii V as a Suspended 4th with a / Doimant resolving to the utmosy tension resolvimg to 12 Tonics/ 12 m7b5 's( Vii ) or what Step you want resolve to...foe instance as in O.G.D.S.( Green Dolphinstreet) Ending: Fm7 Bb7 Ebmaj7 Bb7 Ebmaj..evolved to G713B9 C713b9 F

eternalrainbow-cjiu
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Thank you for the video♪ Please there is a function called Auto Translate, so please add it(from japan)

jazzmanilow
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1 question tho…. When I saw the title I thought of my own problem with longer 251’s which is playing 16th notes per chord/bar

RavenYan
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Thank you very much. Very helpful. Have to build up my vocabulary of 2-5-1s. Am inclined to play licks and runs, often kind of flashy.

christophueberhorst
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I’m a simple man. I see Coltrane, I click

darienmoncree
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Always thought of the walk down as a line cliché but never as a short VI7. Interesting…

RavenYan
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And Bb713b9 to Emaj7 #11 or Going to Gm7/ non Eb and rathet going to Fm7/Bb Bb7/Bb IEb/( Bb )new Kuvk ass Chiorua...or right befor head revisiting / reprise...

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