Was The Confederacy Fascist?

In political discussions of history, there is often a comparing or equivalating of the Southern Confederacy which seceded from the United States and fought the Civil War, to the European Axis Powers of Germany and Italy. But was the Confederacy actually Fascist? Why do so many people seem to compare the South to fascist Italy and Germany?

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[achaeanmapping]

People simply don't have a clue what fascism really is, I don't get how people can speak on something with such confidence while being so ignorent to the simple definitions of they words they use

[tagekoolander]

People need to understand that racism does not equal fascism

[perceivedvelocity]

The term "fascist" used to mean something. It carried weight. Nowadays people throw it around casually. They use it as an insult for people who do not agree with them.

[liberty.b.r]

I would like to make a point that monarchism does not equal fascism. Thank you, and God bless! :)

[Catscounteratack]

Fun fact :
Slavery isn’t Fascism .
Fascism isn’t Nazism .

[somerandomname]

The fact anyone might ask this shows political literacy is dead.

[nord_anon]

Uh, no. They were Jeffersonian/Jacksonian liberals. Racist/white nationalist/supremacist liberals did and still do exist. Being racist doesn't make you a fascist, Italian fascism isn't even that racist.

[emryswilliams]

That last bit you brought up about using modern standards to judge the past was really good, and I think we should really think about the cultural and political standards of the past to truly analyze an action someone takes in history.

[jacksonrowell]

Great video once again brother. I wouldn’t be surprised if less than 1% of the population could accurately define fascism in the first place.

[palaghiaandrei]

Italy and Germany were not conservative. Fascism and Nazism are not conservative ideologies. They were revolutionary. Conservatism implies conserving a political system and a way of life, things they both wanted to drastically change.

[night]

1:40 - Neither fascism nor nazism were reactionary nor pro aristocracy/monarchy. Both Hitler and Mussolini hated the monarchy and blamed many of their problems on the aristocrats. Keep in mind as well both men claimed their countries were “pure” democracies Giovanni Gentile who was the father of fascism and a minister under Mussolini wrote in his doctrines of Fascism that liberal democracy was too chaotic but under a fully centralized state the true power of the people, or democracy, can be instated. Also both the Kingdom of Italy and the German Empire were parliamentary liberal democratic constitutional monarchies with limited crown power. Both were products of enlightened values and were more democratic than the UK at the time which disenfranchised 2/3rds of the electorate and had the unelected House of Lords.

[MrAsianPie]

Of course they were, I don’t like them. And if I don’t like them, they’re fascist!

[zingerman]

Wow an actually accurate map of the CSA, most maps leave out everything west of Texas from the CSA glad to see you included Arizona

[Army]

(reminder)

Conservative Separatism is completely different from Social Nationalism

[SamuraiFrogz]

“Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety five per cent, at least. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today… National pride has no need for the delirium of race.” -Benito Mussolini

[richardstarkey]

In contempoary America, fascist is just a buzzword to describe anything the person saying it doesn't like.

[PrimericanIdol]

Didn't Mussolini himself say that race "was a feeling, not a reality", and that "National pride has no need for the delirium of race"?

[joeyginise]

Never once has anyone I saw talking about the confederacy brought up how its government functioned, its laws, and how its people lived. All I ever hear is "Slavery le bad" and that is it. With the retort to states' rights being "Right to do what, hmm?" Forcing the other party to capitulate the discussion because "Slavery le bad."

This is the first time I have heard anyone bring up confederate government and culture, if admittedly briefly.

[scottmaclellan]

The answer is no and was never yes. In fact, Ulysses S. Grant sitting in hotels lobbies (where the term lobbying comes from) to talk business with wealthy corporate agents in order to decide who gets federal funding has more in common with Italian corporate fascism (marriage of state and business). Further, the post-war US has always demonstrated fascistic tendencies through corporations either being tools of the state (like with FDR, himself an admirer of Mussolini) or just having near outright control over government action (when the Marines were fighting for United Fruit or military contractors buying out politicians).

Americans don't know their own history.

[Matt_Alaric]

Because the people who say it are the people who believe anything that isn't progressive is The accuracy of the insult is less important than publicly labelling any non-progressives as bad people whose rights or opinions therefore are irrelevant.