Warframe - The Riven Mod System

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Warframe - The Riven Mod System

Today I'm going to talk a bit on Warframe's Riven Mod system. The Good, The less good and a few suggestions.

Warframe is a free-to-play action role-playing third-person shooter multiplayer online game developed and published by Digital Extremes.

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"The more balls you have, the better the stats" -Leyzar 2021

fcasias
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I really hate the Riven system, but sadly there's no getting rid of it, and not even a rework/rebalance of the system either because it will upset the Riven mafia

XmortoxX
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When you Dissolve your riven, you should at least get the option of getting back all the kuva you put into it!

mikegatling
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Most weapons dont need a riven but every one can be boosted by an great amount, even dispo 1/5 weapons. U can simply use riven to save 1 or even 2 mod-slots. Try a Toxin+Cold riven, u dont want a high value of viral anyway. A Form of locking a stat would be nice plus with every roll over X could narrow the range of the stats toward the top (limited by Dispo ofc).

heroslex
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Locking a stat would be awesome and I've been hearing about that since the riven system came out. I guess we'll have to give it time and see what DE does. On my rivens, I just try to roll stats my weapon might need. Two or three stats that can save me some mod space; furthermore, amplifying my weapon to its max potential. But if I get a G-roll, that's fine by me.

shadow
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Or simply get your locked stat after a certain number amount of rolls... like after 100 Rolls, u get to lock 1 stat. 200 rolls 2 stat lock and 300 rolls u keep all and roll only for negative. Would be better 100 rolls, then 175 rolls and 250 for the last. It's a considerable amount of kuva. But at least u get something substantial for sure.... After tons of investment..

angeldemon
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Problems with Warframe:
1. Bloated with Parasitic systems.
2. Endless grind.
3. RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG.
4. No real end game.

marcovchb
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I hate 'em so much i disolve 'em. Its just a "slot machine" concept; u may waste a dozen of hours and still wont get a good riven.
Plus they are not needed. The recent arcane system and galvanized mods made primary & secondary weapons good in early steel path.

JohnnyMacLeod
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I agree in locking a stat on a riven. Also I think they should do like a trade-off. When you lock a stat, you can't trade the riven. It's permanently yours until you dissolve it.

yungapx
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I love the idea of being able to lock a stat. That would make the grind so much better. Also, I don't think I've ever met anyone who hates rivens. Seems to me like everyone likes them or is indifferent.
Personally, I love them, and I've been blessed with some nice ones. I particularly love my War riven. It gives +crit chance, +melee damage, +slash, -impact. Turns the bonk sword into the proper slashing beast it should have been.

SaltyMaverick
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I really like your suggestion! Allowing to lock parts of a riven in could then also lead to increased costs for your future rolls on the riven. That would lead to more consistently good results when rolling the riven and still be kinda pricy so there isnt an abundance of god roll rivens a week later.

philipwilkin
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I'm sitting on 136 Rivens and honestly it's at a point I don't even get excited anymore. Half the time the Riven requirement to unlock is awful, but since they put in the thing from Teshin that auto unlocks them that's cool. The only other issue I have is that most of the time the Rivens are God-awful and worse than Corrupted mods. I get it, it's by design to blow Kuva, sometimes it gets ridiculous on the amount spent just to get a halfway decent roll. And that's IF the Riven is for a weapon you ACTUALLY use instead of something you know can't be made better even with a God roll because the weapon is so outdated and outclassed by newer weapons. The Dera is a prime example of this.

akiraxtreme
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I really love them, i love to catch a bad weapon with an interesting mechanic and make a monster out of it!
And commonly, the mods i'm looking for are really cheap because of that

sacro
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It works best when it does what it was intended, making less popular weapons good. I have sick Karak, Twin Kohmak, and Rabvee rivens I use and I'm happy working off the beaten path. The biggest riven fix was them ending the disposition drought of how many years? The second biggest was the arcanes and galvanized mods making them further unnecessary. Primary and secondary can now keep up even better without a riven, which is part of what they were band-aiding as well.

God tier rivens used to be 10s of thousands, now you can snag something really nice for only 1-2k, which is probably faster to farm and sell prime parts for than it is to farm kuva depending on your luck. I wouldn't mind some kind of process or quest akin to the FF14 relic weapons to forge a god riven we lock to our account that takes time and effort sufficient to not entirely up-end the market, as DE needs that plat sale income, but otherwise they're in a better place than they ever were for people to get something they want but no longer feel they need.

orangesouls
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Personally I don’t chase rivens very often. My only wish is that one day you can target farm to some degree. Like rifle, shotgun, pistol, melee etc . Even if it’s a new currency that isn’t super easy to get. It might relieve a little bit of the headache and lower the demanding prices on the market from 1k and beyond. But it’s not an issue I’d press hard, I agree you don’t need rivens. Just a bonus.

HoursAtTheLibrar
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Thank you so much for making these warframe guide videos, like you said the learning curve is super steep! I just picked up the Atomos after watching your other video
What music did you use in this video?

snaxman
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I don't think the omg moment is a very weak argument ngl but i would do 3 methods.

Method 1) Get rid off the rng stat element, and have rivens the way they where supposed to be, and that is buffing weapons that they're ment for. To bring the weapon up to the same level that the good weapons are at, and have the rng be what weapon you get for the riven and use kuva to rank up the mod instead of endo. (Or you use kuva to add random quirk stat like adding alt fire or have the pyrana prime effect stuff like that)

Method 2) (this is to keep the rng element in) I would add a form of the relic system, by having it where before you roll the riven you can go through the list of stats, and add void traces to the stats you want to increase the chances of getting, and just like the relic system the max you can add is 100 traces to 1 stat. (And you can't decrease the chances)

Method 3) is very simple get rid of rivens all together.

DyingDarkStar
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The problem with rivens is that they never should have affected damage directly. They should have been what exilus mods are now. Quality of life, rounding out a weapons downsides.

Instead, it’s just power creep that you can’t even lock in since they nerf disposition on a whim in spite of the fact that it’s a PVE game and the enemies don’t have feelings.

This is coming from someone who has no issue throwing down hundreds of platinum for two or three rivens for my favorite weapons. (Current obsessions are Bubonico and Kuva Chakkhurr)

I simply don’t like them as they are. They don’t serve any purpose apart from stimulating the platinum economy and there isn’t a need to stimulate that with constant primes.
If they refunded everyone the kuva costs of their rerolls and removed direct damage modifiers I would be so happy, the rivens would slot into the exilus slot or have its own slot and never again would it be that serious if a weapon had some downsides. You could fix multiple issues on your favorite weapons with dedication rather than simply doing 12% more damage and having a status symbol.

IAmMyVeryOwn
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The best rivens are for the MIGHTY SEER and the kuva SEER. Rivens are fun for helping non meta weapons get a booster

ThePopeOfAwesomeness
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I do agree with you for the most part. Although I would think that if you could lock in a specific roll, it would destroy the already skewed market for rivens. Maybe they can do what Diablo 3 does and allow you to only role 1 Stat for extra kuva?
I do want to thank you for all your weapon guides on opening up my eyes that rivens are not needed to make the best build but instead allow you to enjoy your weapon more if you really like it.

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