TF2: Is The Phlog STILL Overpowered? (January 2016 nerf)

The Phlogistinator in Team Fortress recently got nerfed. Do I still think it's overpowered?

Ultimately, the Phlog is a bit of a weird weapon which promotes a less skill-based playstyle, however its former reign of terror may have come to an end.

I love feedback, good and bad, so please let me know what you think!

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[bobbyferg]

0:58 well if the phlog can kill Donald Trump than it is op in my book. Also the way you said Mpph Is priceless

[wizedeath]

I feel as if instead of crits, it should get mini-crits on mmph. The only reason I don't use this weapon is because of it's fluctuating stats.

[SomeOctopusWizard]

I think arguing about a weapon being overpowered because not everyone is decent at the game is fairly unhelpful, simply because most weapons in the game would be overpowered in that sense. It's much more useful to discuss whether or not it's fun to play against (I think it's not), and it might even be worth saying it's a noob trap weapon, but overpowered is a term that gets watered down when it's thrown around outside of a higher competitive circuit.

[JohnDoe-lzoo]

I actually had to use a warning in the chat if anybody was using the phlog. I told them if they didn't stop, I would use it and roll them. When I used the phlog, I carried an entire team of new players to victory and went on a 40 killstreak in 5 minutes.

[haz]

"Get out of free, jail card" - Casper 2016

[NeedMoreMushrooms]

Me being the Halfway Decent player that I am, had to counter Phlog by using Phlog... And then I proceeded to spawncamping...

The nerf seems pretty good.

[chillaxTF]

I like the way Aegis put it. "It's a win-more weapon". Against a coordinated team you're done if you use this.
I personally don't use it though. Airblast is too fun to pass up.

[Debatra.]

The original Phlog was fine as it was (lack of airblast aside). It maybe needed just a little bit less damage reduction (it used to be the only known way to survive a telefrag), but an attentive team could still deal with it.

Admittedly, I'm a Spy main, so I'm probably a tad biased. I used to be able to run in for a good mid-Mmmph stab.

[DUGGDSIUFBSD]

My favorite flame thrower died. I had suicide prevention called on me because I was so depressed.

[aidancarlisle]

"It could be used as a get out of free jail card."

gg

[Rabeez]

agreed, i always thought it was easy to kill phlog pyros, but my team would always suck at killing them, which got us rolled quite often, the only problem is, I love playing spy 90 percent of the time and don't like being forced to switch classes just to deal with a troll, which is the same reason I hate mini sentries. (more so before the nerf) so most of the time I don't want to switch to soldier or demo just so that my team might have a slight chance to not get rolled.

[emotionalpotion]

I think the phlog is balanced now, here is why, a demo can easily setup enough stickies to knock you back or kill you a demoknight could run in with a medic a scout can run to a distance where he can attack you and you can't a soldier can load up his clip same with all classes a spy could cloak and run or setup to backstab you other pyro' scan air blast you and burning teammates and a engie can fall back to his nest or build up his carried sentry (btw this is talking about what you can do when a phlog is taunting and about to have crits)

[quarrie_]

I still don't understand how Valve thought it needed a buff in the first place, considering how much hate the weapon got for being such a crutch to players already.
What I thought would be a fairly cool idea is that instead of crits it min-crits, but players who are set on fire receive mini-crit damage, similar to jarate (maybe a shorter afterburn time to stop it being a pain). It reduces the pyros ability to liquidate teams by w m1, and makes it a bit more teamwork friendly, which every weapon should be.

[Alisa-wlnb]

the phlog is now a passive agreasive type weapon. like the frontier justice.

[MonkeyDigsGamingFTW]

I kinda liked the nerf, but I HATE it having the same damage as stock which means the Crits still melt you...

[Redorb]

"Think about the cleaner carbine " no that was changed to give full crits but now has a metre, it's like a less overpowered phlog

[bagen]

Reduce the mmmph meter when you get kills with the crits, so if you kill 3 people almost at once the mpphh meter will reset instantly

[thepicheese]

I think to TRULY nerf the phlog, they need to make it so that the fire damage needs to come from the phlog, instead of a secondary or the sharpened volcano fragment

[isaacmarouk-coe]

a "get out of free jail card" hmmm

[GeZz.]

the phlog was never "op"

-No airblast.
- Close range wep (like every flamathrower. so...)
-that moment when u taunt. a demo can set u a sticky trap. Or a solly hits u a direct rocket and then finish u off with other rocket.

So.... with this weapon YOU NEED TO BE VERY sneaky. u cant just do w+m1 because u are going to die in a blink.