MUSLIMS REACT to Muslim Schism: How Islam Split into the Sunni and Shia Branches

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We react to Muslim Schism: How Islam Split into the Sunni and Shia Branches by Kings and Generals.

We give our thoughts on the differences within the video regarding Sunni and Shia beliefs, as well as our Islamic views and beliefs as well!

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Kings and Generals historical animated documentary series on the early history of Islam, as we discuss the events that led to the schism within the Muslim community, as Islam split into two branches - Sunni and Shia Islam. This happened in the latter stages of the Early Muslim Expansion, as the Rashidun caliphs - Umar, Uthman and Ali were assassinated, which led to the war of succession, killing of Ali's son Husayn in Karbala, and the creation of the Umayyad dynasty under Muawiyah I.

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15:13 correction: Umar ibn al khattab*

MuslimMindsUS
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Salam Alykum, to clarify, as a Shia, the reason we mourn for Karbala is to commemorate Ashura’ to symbolise and express our grief and emotions towards the martyrdom of Imam al-Hussain (AS), to keep Imam al-Hussain’s (AS) cause alive in our hearts and to be committed to his cause. Also, we want to extract lessons from the tragedy of Karbala and apply them to our daily lives. Furthermore, crying for Imam al-Hussain (AS) is considered seeking nearness to Allah (SWT) for the tragedy of Karbala is bound to the great sacrifice which Imam al-Hussain (AS) endured for the sake of Allah (SWT) and for Islam. It is only when your heart is soft and absorbable that you feel the sense of closeness to Allah (SWT). The Holy Qur’an praises crying and those who cry for a legitimate cause. The Holy Qur’an describes many of the Prophets and their followers when they cried, “When the verses of the Most Gracious were recited unto them, they fell down prostrating and weeping”
Are we just meant to look at this event, "Oh, it was sad, but move on." Like Imam Hussain's (AS) sacrifice was nothing significant in the face of Islam.

Muhammad SAW himself cried when Hussain was born in his arms. Umm Salamah has said: "al-Hussain entered on the Prophet (S), while I was sitting at the door, so I saw in the hand of the Prophet (S) something he turned over while (Hussain) sleeping on his stomach. I said: Oh messenger of Allah, I looked and saw you turning something over in your hand when the kid was sleeping on your stomach and your tears were pouring? He said: Gabriel came to me with the sand upon which he (Hussain) will be killed. And he informed me that my nation (umma) will kill him."

The prophet SAW himself said that in a hadith (in Sunni books), that "I leave behind two weighty things, hold on to them and you will never go astray, the Quran and my Ahlulbayt (people of his household)." (Sahih Muslim 2408)

Look Akhi, I understand your Perspective, you have to stand by your Sunni Theology. But do not denounce our sect and Ideology as deviant from Islam without understanding where our Perspective comes from. I mean I get it, there are some extremists in our sect that worship the Imams and flagellate, but this do not represent our views. But, hey at the end of the day, we are all one Ummmah still. Jazkallah!

titangamer
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39:49 but prophet Mohammed said that he left us two things first the Quran and then his family (ahy al bahtı ) but yet they killed all his family

IFXeT
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"Why would this matter be left vague?" The vagueness of much of the Quran is the reason there are thousands and thousands of lines of hadith, and even disagreements today over their exact meaning.

garethmiguel
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The 6 sahih (True) sunni books of the narrations of prophet Mohammed s.w . each of the 6 books say the prophet said " I have left among you 2 heavy things if you follow them you will never go astray
the Quran and my etra my chosen progeny. "

kharrsa
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Brother it's not bizarre story that they came to Imam Ali's house and did it, it's also proven in your sunnis books that that event have happened, if you want proof or Wana talk more you can always debat, it's clear that sunnis don't Wana believe that event cause if they accept it, there whole branches of pillars will fell, why because Prophet SAW said by himself who ever Hurt her daughter Fatima s.a is like they hurt Prophet Muhammad SAW, how you can consider those people good who hurt Prophet, hope this world can understand 🙏🙏🙏

alimehdi
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Two questions from the Sunnis... First, it is mentioned in Sehah Setheh(صحاح سته) (one of the most reliable books of hadiths of the Sunnis) and our books about the return of the Promised Mahdi, and it is a valid hadith. Introduce someone as the imam of the time so that we all don't have to wait so long and the problems will be solved... why don't you do this if you believe that the imam must be appointed by God and it is not our job, then why did you forget the incident of (غدیر) Ghadir after the death of the prophet and You yourself chose the successor and caliph by the Thaqifa(ثقیفه) Council...so do the same thing now...the last Imam of the era has signs such as mastery over jinn and human beings and being knowledgeable about all sciences and connecting to the unseen source, so you can't do this. Find someone and introduce them, and it was also wrong in the case of Shovara Thaqifa that you put down the words of the Prophet and said that God's book is enough for us (حسبنا کتب الله)and you did not allow the Prophet to make a will in the last moments of his life. He said, let me bequeath you so that you will never go astray after me(إِنِّی تَارِکٌ فِیکُمُ الثَّقَلَیْنِ کِتَابَ اللَّهِ وَ عِتْرَتِی أَهْلَ بَیْتِی ما إِنْ تَمَسَّکْتُمْ بهما لَنْ تَضلُّوا أبَداً و إنّهما لَنْ یَفْتَرِقا حَتى یَرِدا عَلَیَّ الحَوْضَ) Indeed, I am leaving two precious things among you, the Book of God and my Ahl al-Bayt, as long as you cling to these two precious things, you will not go astray. These two will not be separated from each other until they return to me on the Day of Resurrection by the side of the Kausar pool, and Umar said at that moment that the prophet of delirium says, (ان الرجل لیهجر) In the case that the Prophet (PBUH) His words are not from himself, but from the side of God And the second is the unanswered question of Allamah Amini from Ahl al-Sunnat. It is stated in hadiths and authentic books that anyone who dies and does not know the Imam of his time dies the death of ignorance. (Musnad of Hanbal, Musnad of Ahmad, vol. 28, p. 88) So where was the Imam of the time of Fatima, the daughter of the Messenger of God, at the time of her death? If we say that he did not know that Na'udz is God, then we should say that Fatimah died an ignorant death, and if we say that it was Abu Bakr, that Fatimah was very upset and angry with him at the end of her life, and it was this sadness that caused her to die (Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 3, p. 112, Hadad 2926). ) So the Imam of her time was not Abu Bakr...our path diverges from yours here and it doesn't matter whether the number of the Shia population is more or Sunni...


After all, if the Prophet and in the incident of Ghadir, the word Wilayat means friendship (did the Prophet, in that hot weather and during his last Hajj, when he wanted to say the most important commandments to the people, kept all the people in the desert around the wells of Ghadir and told them who stayed behind and moved on, said to come back and say something important and say that whoever I am his friend from now on Ali is his friend? Can you force someone to love another person, for example, that person is someone who He killed your father, can you still really love him? Is it not good, or is it true that the word Mullah means obedience and guardianship? And there is a more important message that God said in the Qur'an, O Prophet, O Prophet, convey what is to It has been revealed to you that if you don't do this, your prophethood is not complete and God will protect you from the evil of people... Surah Ma'idah verse 67) that if we consider the words "Wali" and "Vilayat" in the meaning of friendship, then again How well did they fulfill the right of friendship with the children of the Prophet!!! They either killed or poisoned them, and what they did to the Prophet's family in the Karbala incident... When you want to go on a long journey, you leave a guardian and a substitute for your home, as the famous saying goes, be the man of the house. How did the Prophet leave his Ummah without introducing a successor? ... never ever ... the problem is that you don't want to accept it, otherwise the truth is brighter and more obvious than the sun

hmd
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After the death of the holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him and his holy progeny), Muslims had two options for seeking guidance from; the ahlulbayt (family) of the holy Prophet. Others.
The ahlulbayt are those family members of the holy Prophet who grew up in his blessed lap. Islam, Qur'an and the Shari'a was revealed in their house. The angels descended with the blessings and salutations from Allah into their house. Muslims are obligated to send blessings upon not only their Prophet alone in their daily prayers/salat but also his holy progeny. They are the people about whom Allah testifies of their purity, cleanliness, infallibility and perfection in the holy Qur'an.
The holy Prophet left behind him the Book of Allah, the holy Qur'an and his holy progeny.
They are the inheritors of the holy Prophet's knowledge, wisdom and characteristics.
The holy Prophet loved them the most and they loved him the most.
Who can understand Islam, Qur'an, the Shari'a and the sunnah of the holy Prophet better than the people of the house?
As regards to the others, we are not sure about the state of their iman, source of their knowledge, information, guidance and understanding about Islam.
The truth of the matter is that the vast majority of Muslims are victims of prejudice, ignorance, brainwashing, misconceptions and misinformation when it comes to the school of the holy ahlulbayt
(a s).
Muslims need to study the biographies of personalities like the holy Prophet Muhammad, his beloved daughter Fatima, her husband Ali and their sons Hasan and Husain (peace and blessings of Allah be upon them all).
They also need to look into the history of Islam, especially events such as:-
Da'wat-e-Zul Ashira
Mubahila
The event of Ghadir-e-Khum
Saqifa
Fadak
The death of Abuzar Ghaffari
The death of Malik bin Nuweira
The death of the wife of the holy Prophet, Ayesha.
The battle of Jamal
The battle of Siffin
Ashura
www.al-islam.org
Please listen to the beautiful lectures by
Syed Mustafa Qazwini
Syed Muhammad Baqir Qazwini
Syed Mehdi Modarressi on utube

Gulamqambar
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Very well explained. May Allah preserve your knowledge.

Nabikoo
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6:49 did you have read the Shia books? The books which are written under the rule of Khulafas, how they can be correct?

imranhaider
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حديث بريدة  قال رسول الله ﷺ: كنت نهيتكم عن زيارة القبور فزوروها، رواه مسلم

MussyPlayz
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Who was on the on the councils that elected the caliphs, was there a process to select members?

CarlosGarin-zgez
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First of all Prophet S.A.W was not illiterate. Illiterate are the those people who call him this. Prophet s.a.w didn’t used pen in his early and most of his life is because people would have blamed that He s.a.w has written Quran by himself and it was not revealed by God. So correct yourself. Secondly if Prophet s.a.w asked to give him pen & paper l, he should have been given that immediately because Holy Quran urges us to follow what Prophet s.a.w orders. Umar should not have interrupted at that moment and let Prophet s.a.w write. If he had not interrupted at that time, maybe there must not have this schism in Islam today.

ahmadkhandreshak
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From where did you get the Election stuff that you talked about in 13:20? There is nothing like that, what the Prophet ever told.

lies-deine-bucher
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المشكلة بين السنه والشيعة هي مسالة الولاية في الامور الدينية و الخلافة في الامور السياسية ان الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم اتم الرسالة كاملة ارجع الى آية الإكمال التي نزات هذه آية بعد خطبة غدير خم ارجع الى القران والحديث قال عزوجل (وما ينطق عن الهوى*إن هو إلا وحي يوحى)

alucardthelegend
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I have another question. Is the Shia veneration of Ali, Hussein, and others, comparable to veneration of saints in Roman Catholicism and Orthodoxy? Will Shia Muslims ask for their intercession on their behalf, or does their veneration take a different form?

CarlosGarin-zgez
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Who can deny a prophet the dignity to write ?

RRassam-vk
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Brother you should learn the history of both sides then you can figure out truth. Everything is front of you just need to focus. I belong to sunni family but I'm convert to shia after reading Quran and history

muhammadumairgujjar
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My brother you have my heart as I also do not consider them kafirs as most ignorant people would.. Shias do believe in Allah and The Last Prophet and The Holy Quran which makes them Muslim... Yes some of their beliefs and practices are totally against Islam but those still do not make them Kafirs. May Allah guide them and guide us.. MaShaAllah You my brother are very sensible and understanding <3 May Allah reward you for being patient and humble enough to give honest and fair judgements <3

syed
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So if I understand your point of view correctly. The Prophet (sawas) would have stopped a carvan, waited for the arrival and return of all the Muslims just to say that Imam Ali (as) is a venerable companion. This makes no sense, all Muslims have known this for a long time. Moreover that day, all the Muslims present gave him allegiance, for what reason if not to affirm that he is indeed the successor of the Prophet (sawas)? And what about the will that the Prophet (sawas) wanted to write just before his death and Omar's refusal to let him write saying that he no longer has his head and that he is delirious? I would add that there are also differences in belief and practice despite your assertions.

muhammadhaydar