Metal-Free Stars and Deceptive AIs | Hugh Ross and Jeff Zweerink

Join Hugh Ross and Jeff Zweerink as they discuss new discoveries taking place at the frontiers of science that have theological and philosophical implications, including the reality of God’s existence.

Metal-Free Stars
Using the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST), a team of 15 astronomers discovered a galaxy (RXJ2129-z8HeII) with a measured redshift that corresponds to a distance of 13.16 billion light-years. This measurement implies that astronomers are seeing it just 630 million years after the big bang creation event. The newly discovered galaxy’s features include two unique features: a bright ultraviolet continuum with an extremely steep spectral slope and a strong helium emission line. These newly found features, combined with a discovery made a few months earlier of an ionized gas cloud in the halo of another galaxy that contains only hydrogen and helium, affirms a fundamental prediction of the biblically predicted big bang creation model. That prediction claims that before any stars form the elemental composition of the universe will, by mass, be composed of 75.33% hydrogen, 24.67% helium, and a trace amount of lithium. These discoveries provide yet more evidence that the more we learn about the universe, the more evidence we accumulate that a God beyond space and time created the universe and exquisitely designed it so that humans could live and thrive.

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[malware_in_tn]

Dr. Ross-

Thank you for visiting Conduit in TN a while back, and for signing my copy of Rescuing Inerrancy. I am really enjoying it just as I have the few other of your books so far.

I was raised on evolution in school, found YE creationism in college and laughed at it, then came to faith as an adult and just accepted it on faith, despite doubts.

Now, because of you, I can be confident in all the universe is telling us AND in faith accept a creation model that makes sense without violating the Word.

[oahukiteboarder]

Really appreciate hearing some very intelligent Christians insights pertaining to AI

[terrycooper]

Love hear a debate between Hugh Ross and Neil DeGryse

[Brian_L_A]

So interesting, the origins of our Universe.

[MichaelUle]

I appreciate Jeff's spin on AI, but I'm concerned that he (and the researchers he cites) aren't considering the fact that it is highly unlikely that "AIs" (really LLMs) know that they are lying when they give an answer that humans perceive as lying. In my experience in using AIs, the AIs don't know facts, or even really strategies. What they "know" is that certain statistical weights lead to outputs that their creators (humans) think are correct (Hugh's point about knowing what the goals of the models are).

Forgive my language, but in my experience LLMs are really good "B.S.ers" as opposed to oracles of truth (or lies). It's the humans interpreting the results (and tweaking the models) that know things, not the models themselves. So using Jeff's example of the drug deal, when the researchers asked the model why it gave the answers it gave, it didn't "lie" to the researcher when responding, it gave the statistically best B.S. answer it could based on the input it was given -- it was the researcher reading the result that determined it was a lie.

The point of what I write above is to say that we have to be very careful anthropomorphizing these models, in the end they are machines bound to follow their programing, not intelligent rational beings. So in my opinion claiming the machine is "lying" is philosophically inaccurate, it is simply giving the statistically most probable output -- which happens to be a lie.

[d.zynedthrive]

So are the population III stars in our galaxy 12+billion years old?

[livingwithmystery]

Hugh, if that galaxy is 13 billion years old, do you think it still exists today or will it have collapsed or dissipated?

[Rabbinicphilosophyforthewin]

I don’t think it’s less likely that Meta is lying to us.

[Nydiade]

If you think this is going to be good you’re deluding yourself