The Dark Side of Science:The Horrific Stateville Prison Malaria Experiment 1944 | short Documentary

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During WW2 the US undertook experimentation on Prisoners to find a cure for Malaria.....

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[PlainlyDifficult]

I hope you all find this one interesting! I think it will be the last Dark Side of Science for a while.

[cameronhaney]

Love that pic with the men wearing nets on their heads but with exposed arms and legs. Nice job guys, you really understand the principles at play there.

[NickJohnCoop]

It’s a strange thing for one of these ‘Dark Side’ episodes to have a case where it’s still awful, but not as awful as it could have been.

[bethanywordsmith]

Kudos to getting the name of the prison correct!! I worked at Stateville between 1989 and 2002, and got very tired of being asked what "Statesville" was like. It was a maximum-security prison, which usually housed prisoners serving longer sentences for more serious felonies or who had caused discipline problems at lesser-security prisons. The round house was still in use when I worked there.

[chrisj]

Hey PD, this was an incredible episode, really well paced and explained. You have really found your stride! Also its so cool to know you make your own soundtracks!!! 👍

[CK]

The Nuremburg Code. That creation designed to do so much to protect so many, thrown out the window so readily.

[CrimsonSwft]

Just as I was searching for a new Plainly Difficult video! I think these science topics are a good contrast to your usual disaster content, but either way I love a new upload! 😁 Great work! 💪🙌

[greentree]

Do one on borellia, Bartonella and rickettsia. These were all tested on humans and have been left to run wild today.

[miss.guidedghosts]

Super interesting video! One note on pronunciation, the word "Quechua" (referring to the people and the language) is pronounced "KEH-chew-uh" rather than "kwey-CHEW-uh" and for any future reference, most of the time with words that come from Yucatec mayan (a language mostly found today in fragmentary surviving words and names, mostly in the Yucatan peninsula) if they include an X, it makes an "ish" sound, like the "sh" in the word "sluSH". names like Xochilt are pronounced as "sho-cheel". Keep up the good work!

[LintuLumessa]

Holly shit, that video was quite triggering.

I am actually Austrian and also the granddaughter of a Holocaust survivor and I've lost a huge amount of relatives in concentration camps.

Some of them even fell victims to medical experiments.

I honestly couldn't even finish the video, but thx for talking about it.

[douro]

They reopened the roundhouse at Stateville Prison in 2020 for purposes of forceful quarantine. It is probably the largest such roundhouse in the country.

[twocvbloke]

Whether misunderstood, misinterpreted or misrepresented, they did at least make an attempt at consent, even if it was with a somewhat captive audience...

[chrisw]

This is why I drink as many gin & tonics as possible. Keeps my quinine count strong.

[ploed]

I love the speed you going with this video!

[stuffedninja]

Day started off sad, but then I remembered, it's Saturday! New Plainly!

Fascinating that you ranked it that low. I'd have gone with at least a 5, probably 6. Considering all the side effects that can linger from this, it feels much more unethical than it was made out to be, regardless of the participants' past. even people I hate don't deserve to have lifelong heart issues (except child molesters, they deserve suffering).

also, for a moment I forgot that the UK drives on the opposite side from the US, and the ending was very disorientating. xD;

[CrazyMama]

I had an elderly neighbour when I was a young teenager who had malaria, from his days in the Vietnam war, which would flare up every few months. Combine that with his dementia in older age and the grief of losing his wife, who's literally saved his life mental health wise and he'd devoted his life to her care, which made his dementia so much worse, it was horrible when his malaria would flare up or his PTSD symptoms would flare, normally made worse by the malaria flares. I'll never forget how ill he'd get or how scared he'd get.
It horrifies me how we, our voted for governments, so easily fund it back experiments that leave other people with disabilities in various forms. Still ongoing today, most of our medicines are experimented on vulnerable populations in the Africas.

[calendarpage]

For something similar, take a look at 'Acres of Skin, ' by Allen Hornblum. It recounts how mostly black prisoners from Philadelphia were used for drug experiments, many of which were for dermatology products for companies that are well-known today. Many were scarred for life. Participation was encouraged because it gave prisoners a little spending money, which positively affected prisoner behavior. Some participated because it gave them money for commissary goods, which they could use to avoid unwanted sexual advances. Sadly, because many men were from very poor backgrounds, no one on the outside funded thier commissary, so without participation, they wouldn't have any money. The studies raise questions about race, consent, research ethics, research on prisoners - the list goes on.

[xivix]

If you could do a video on the tuberculosis experiment at Willowbrook state school it would be appreciated.

[PoloOfficial]

Hey i grew up just off the edge of the map you showed at 9:15, I know alot about the history of the area since its exploration in the 1800s and the trading post at isle a la cache (fished there since I was a baby). Ama about the town and history! So cool and surreal to see my old neighborhood on the first video I watched today!

[cherbearian]

Thank you for another harrowing example of the importance of full informed consent.

I love your series, but I am a medical laboratory scientist with a microbiology specialization and this murdered me (despite it being an excellent episode) - the species name is pronounced fal-si-puh-rum.

We had an entire unit on the Plasmodium species; they continue to be a huge problem. Nothing But Nets is an excellent charity if anyone wants to look into it ❤️