David Gioe, Huw Dylan & Elena Grossfeld: Putin’s (mis)Management of Russian Intelligence Assessments

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This is a conversation with the three esteemed authors of a paper entitled “The autocrat’s intelligence paradox: Vladimir Putin’s (mis)management of Russian strategic assessment in the Ukraine War. Huw Dylan, David V. Gioe and Elena Grossfeld
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This article argues that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 is illustrative of this broader, though understudied, pattern of autocratic mismanagement of strategic intelligence. The invasion was both spurred and accompanied by a catastrophic intelligence failure, the responsibility for which rests with Vladimir Putin, the arbiter of a system with limited capacity to offer dispassionate strategic assessments. His failure is characteristic of autocratic regimes assessing foreign developments, including Putin’s Soviet predecessors.

Russian intelligence failed President Vladimir Putin in supporting the most consequential decision of statecraft, war, before Russia’s 2022 full-scale invasion of Ukraine but has since recovered, possibly redeeming itself in Putin’s estimation by securing his regime nearly two and a half years since his shambolic invasion. This article explores Russian intelligence’s traditional areas of (relative) competence in the period following the full-scale invasion, we consider the categories of espionage, sanctions evasion, active measures, and repression, and conclude that Putin’s security and intelligence organs have reasserted themselves with terrible vigour, domestically and internationally. Despite notable failings, they have been indispensable to Putin by securing his regime, at least through mid-2024.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00:00 Paper: Mismanagement of Russian Strategic Assessment in the Ukraine War.
00:03:47 Putin's KGB past didn't help him with intelligence in Ukraine.
00:05:36 Putin's intelligence and security apparatus kept him in power in Russia.
00:08:38 In the 1990s you have KGB culture mixed in with the poison of corruption.
00:12:46 The murdered journalist Anna Politkovskaya called him the strutting Chekist.
00:16:42 How do you get to a prime assignment in the KGB? Connections help.
00:20:13 One of the Putin was doing in East Germany was handling ‘illegal officers.’
00:25:26 The intelligence setup he has is really geared up to help Putin survive.
00:30:22 The GRU was saying they don’t want us in Ukraine. It won’t be a picnic.
00:37:12 It seems everybody is taking everything at face value in the system.
00:42:40 Putin thought this was going to be a short, sharp ‘special military operation.’
00:48:59 In Russia the economy and the system are set up in an almost medieval way.
00:54:32 Longer trends in Russian intelligence show they struggle with the big picture.
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Professor David Gioe is Visiting Professor of Intelligence and International Security in the Department of War Studies. He joins the department as a British Academy Global Professor. He is Associate Professor of History at the US Military Academy at West Point, where he also serves as History Fellow for the Army Cyber Institute. David is also Director of Studies for the Cambridge Security Initiative and co-convener of its International Security and Intelligence program.

Dr Huw Dylan is a Reader in Intelligence and International Security at the Department of War Studies, King’s College London. He is also an Associated Researcher at the Centre for Intelligence Studies in the Norwegian Intelligence School. His work is focused on intelligence in the Cold War and beyond, with a specific focus on deception operations, intelligence in diplomacy, and covert action.

Elena Grossfeld is a PhD candidate in the Department of War Studies, King's College London (KCL), and a member of King's Intelligence and Security Group (KISG). Her research interests are strategic culture of Russian/Soviet intelligence, Cold War, and information warfare.
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The irony of Putin not wanting Russia to be humiliated again...will of course lead to its humiliation again is monumental.

jaimepatena
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Ir becomes OBVIOUS that the first thing one must do to have success is to comprehend what makes the opposition tick.
Our friend Konstantin (Inside Russia) has been invaluable in helping many Western minds understand Russia and just how the typical Russian mind works.
I find his unique perspective ( East / West blend) to be incredibly useful.
Imho.. it would be wise for some Western " Think Tank" to pluck this brilliant chap out of the backwaters and utilize his grasp of the Russian minset. It never hurts to have a 'Superior Man' in your camp.

faithrada
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I just watched the entire Security Council meeting regarding Ukraine. My assessment is there are some countries sitting on the fence, but the majority are totally behind Ukraine.
German Ambassador (representative) was scathing and mentioned the abduction and "deportation" of thousands of children.
The UK Ambassador was very blunt.
I finally heard the US representative say Ukraine should win. Finally said it.
Everyone reiterated the UN charter regarding the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, except the Russian Ambassador who immediately left after the UK scolding.
I definitely feel better knowing we're NOT alone.

ninemoonplanet
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cheers from Arkansas, USA. appreciate all of the content Silicon Curtain produces to keep us in the West, truly informed.

ChuckHickl
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All this talk about Ukraine having to consider giving up some of their land for the sake of peace is disgusting. The people of Vietnam and Afghanistan didn't toss in the towel. They fought hard and kicked out more powerful invaders. The people of Ukraine have that same courage and will overcome the illegal invasion and destruction of their country. The dithering, hand-wringing and waffle by the political elite of most NATO countries, does not inspire much confidence in that organisation's capacity to ever be able to defend Europe against any invading armies.

petervandevoorde
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Fantastic panel. Thank you.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇨🇦✌️🇺🇦

benjohnson
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Oh this was just wonderful! I could have listened to them for two more hours.

medeology
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Thank you Jonathan, for this conversation.
Elena's Tolstoy quote was: "It's smoothly written on paper, but they forgot about the ravines". Referencing Aug. 4th 1855 battle of Fedyukhiny Heights in which Tolstoy was a participant.
Slava Ukraini, Free AZOV, Return the Children, Crimea is Ukraine, RGTFO and VPDFO.

haji
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Top of my notifications 😊 wonderful, thanks Silicon Curtain, Jonathan

madstrsleff
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Thorough conversation, thank you! I may add that Putin is obsessed by an assumed great Russian empire from the past, implying that Russia can only be Russia as a first rank global player.
Combined with the absence of serious counter play within the Kremlin, this can partly explain Putin's colossal errors of judgment in relation to Ukraine and the West. Remember, during the run up to the invasion Putin was intensively warned by Macron, Scholz and others not to engage in military adventures.

jeroenschoot-lh
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💛💙💜💙💛 Couldn't wait, listening now, damn the interruptions! 😄
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sumiland
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New guest, I love the perspective thank you so much. You never stop amazing me.

vonries
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Thank you everybody for this good discussion.

agustinussiahaan
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So Happy to have this casting from Silicon Curtin, will be listening two times and will read the Comments as I happily hitch along with You All.
Goes without saying, Thank -You and May God Bless Your Circle of Influence.
Ukraine will Define Democracy for the entire Planet 🇨🇦☮️👐👣🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻

davidbowers
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Brilliant panel and discussion Jonathon!! P will surely go down as the guy who built then destroyed Russia as a great power!

claireanddexter
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Got ur notification sometimes YouTube does not send it and I see u on my scrollin 5-8 vlogs down

markrivera
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Elena really has Putin sussed out, kudos.

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Oklahoma, USA 🇺🇸❤️🤍💙💛🇺🇦
Slava Ukraine
Thank you so much for the AMAZING videos that you churn out daily!!!

okpta
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I like this multiple guest format - besides the impressive depth of intelligence and complimentary breadth of experiencee you all bring to the table, - even you, Jonathan ;) - the next speaker has time to hone the next piece of the puzzle into the exact shape that completes thr picture. Well done.

paulwatson
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Good video!
If you're interested how politics, corruption and lies undermined russian invasion of Ukraine, i strongly suggest Perun's videos on this topic. ❤

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