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[GrowlingSidewinder]

I think another important point that I forgot to mention in the video is that even if the Viffing worked in real life there would almost always be an enemy wingman near by who would have a hard time believing his luck at the sight of a stalled out or near zero speed Harrier in front of him for an easy fox2 or gun kill. So in that sense Viffing is very similar in concept and application to the Cobra at least thats my 2 cents, ok guys thanks for watching and a big thank you to shotgun for helping out with this video.

[littlevader]

"that's unusual behavior for an aircraft."

Ace combat players: Did he just say unusual?

[intel-hood]

GS—have a friend who was a Harrier pilot w USMC and sent him your vid.
His response: Good discussion. The VIFF’ing to the extent the article talked about was really more defensive but could be effective if the other airplane tried to be greedy. I once went against 2 F16’s and used a high g barrel roll combined with a braking stop VIFF(nozzles actually 17 degrees forward of vertical) and slowed from 540kts to about 210kts in one barrel roll and watched the F16 slide about 40’ beside and in front of me before I stuck the gunsight on the pilot’s helmet and took some gun camera film of him trying to get away from the predicament all the while his partner trying to get separated to get his shot though he couldn’t since we were so close. Of course I would have been a sitting duck after shooting the one since I was slow and out of energy without an afterburner. Fun watching that F16 pilot looking at me helplessly as he slid by my wing and watched me start tracking with the gunsight. It was not totally the nozzles that gave the airplane control at slow speeds. When you dropped the nozzles the reaction controls were energized from engine bleed air which helped you to control the airplane in slow flight and in the hover. In fact you had to be careful not to over control when you put in the nozzles because you could depart from controlled flight which gave you an exciting ride and basically took you out of the fight making you a target…

[markfrost]

VIFFING in real life just extends your life for a few seconds more. Was done to us during an exercise in the North Atlantic. Got the Harrier out of plane while we were lining up a gun kill in a right turn. Harrier had only one way to go after VIFFING... down. Pilot recognized VIFF, rolled wings level pull hard vertically, full burner, performed a hard roll to the left into a rolling re-attack, got a dogfight mode lock, pilot pushed SEAM lock button, AIM-9 screamed, sim FOX 2, dead Harrier. OBTW, we were in an F-14B. Kitty was purring.

[zach]

you should do the A-10 vs the mosquito, both have relitivly tight turns and could make for an interesting dogfight.

[ch_rme_one]

And now even you can be extremely disrespectful with hovering over the ejected enemy with AV-8 and its maneuvers. 😂

[SPQRTempus]

There is an interesting section in CDR Sharkey Wards book, Sea Harrier Over the Falklands. Prior to going to war he talks about a DACT brief either against Eagles or F-5's (been a while since I read it) where he describes in detail the tactics where VIFFing would be used to both deny IR missile shots by hiding the exhaust under their wing and to gain an advantage by using some sort of high G braking roll to force an overshoot.

And for the record, VIFFing was not used in the Falklands because fully developed dogfights NEVER happened. Argentine pilots were ordered to avoid dogfights so tried to run away as soon as they realized there were Sea Harriers in the area. All of the Sea Harrier kills were achieved by rolling onto their six for a fox 2 kill or in three cases, a guns track.

[conker]

As a harrier main in dcs i can say viffing is really, really useful when fighting. The harrier can out fight the f16, su27, tomcat, viggen, f5, mig21 and can give the mirrage and f18 a run for their money if you control the fight.

[thephantomman]

Watched an interview with an faa sea harrier pilot years back, and he said viffing was basically useless, and rotating the nozzles past 40 degrees from horizontal just bled all the aircrafts energy very quickly. He said only advantage to viffing at all, was reducing heat sig from behind

[chrisflynn]

Why hello there! This this the VIFFing Brit and today I'll be showing you some lovely exploits you can pull off in DCS...

[stephenburnside]

The Royal Navy's Fleet Air Arm (FAA) Sqn 809 had the fighter Variant that made most of the Falkland kills. Harrier 809 by Rowland White would be an interesting read.

[lonniebailey]

I have never heard of VIFFing before. That’s interesting to know and see how it applies in DCS World, even if I have no gaming rig to play DCS on.

[DCMAKER]

I know you said you don't want to do tacview every time but it would be cool if when you did tacview you had the other pilot with you and he talks about what he was attempting and what he saw and you 2 go back and forth.

This would be highly appreciated 🙏 and highly educational to people like me who are only novices in piloting and dogfighting.

[wigglewigglevigil]

Ngl if the harrier had 2D thrust vectoring in the rear ducts that shit would be epic.

[Wolf-Nyan]

F^ck.
I was drinking a soda and heard “today were going to try a concept called ‘yiffing’ “ and almost choked trying not to laugh

[ShellShockerSporanox]

He hit the brakes and you flew right by

[jerrodcorey]

6:32
HE DID THAT FOR THE LOLZ
6:43
WOW . . . THE ENTIRE F-5 DETONATED

[nuttyjawa]

I used to work with someone who claimed his father was in the Falklands flying Harriers (he himself was ex-military so I believe that bit), and that he had gun camera footage of him essentially VIFFing in combat. But I never saw it myself

[yatzeegamingop]

That map of Adana is surprisingly accurate in tacview.

[tommiatkins]

In 1982, me and my high school mates ran around the playground, arms out stretched. Harriers vs Mirages. We knew the Harrier would win.