Dreadnoughts from Around the World (1905-14): 1912

Dreadnoughts from Around the World (1905-14):
Part 11, 1913
Part 12, 1914
Part 13, 1915

00:00 Section 19
14:00 Section 20

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[eknapp]

Does anyone else think that the Derfflinger class is perfectly named because their job is to fling things?

[NaomiClareNL]

Saluting the furry assistants with salvos from the imaginary 16.5 inch guns, all to appease the mighty gluesniffing algorithm.

[geoguy]

I saw the Kongo's mentioned, but not the FUSOs and Ises...where do they fit into the timeline?

[whiskeytangosierra]

Interesting presentation, enjoy the pooches cameo appearances, our 24 lb fetchaholic pupper came in and needed attention while I was watching this.

[Graham-ceyk]

An interesting video. Especially the idea that the British were actually in a race with the Americans rather than the Germans, but then up until the 1930s the Americans did a whole series of studies into wars with the UK under the rubic of 'War Plan Red' (The Soviets were 'Purple'...) one critical study designated 'Red-Orange' was based on a war with both Japan and the UK and fed into the subsequent 'Rainbow' Plans.

[WayneBorean]

And then the German navy panics and designs the Baden class, of which they could never build enough. I’m surprised that the High Seas Fleet actually sailed. They should have been scared witless. Of course maybe they were and that’s why they sailed.

[robertmills]

The Courbet's don't seem that bad compared to most of the German designs😁

[jonaskingofsparta]

I was gonna make a point about the ID's and then the QE's still had to come... This was a good year.

I would've loved to see an Iron Duke in WW2. I know they had only one hull left bcs treaties, but considering that they had already designed a 2x14" turret for the KGV's, considering you can pop out the middle turret to fit bigger boilers... It would've been expensive, probably only slightly less than a new ship, but it probably could've been done a lot faster and I think it would've fared fairly well.
On the other hand, WW2 RN probably didn't desperately need an extra battleship? If you could've gotten ID up to battle cruiser speeds, now that'd be something, but I doubt the hull would've liked that.

But the QE's are the real fan favourite here (well, my favourite). Upped the guns, upped the speed, very upgradeable into WW2 (even though mah gurl Malaya got the short end of refits). The only mystery to me (spoilers) is why they stepped the speed back down with the R's. But I'm sure we'll see that on the next part.

[mitchelloates]

"Stop licking the varnish" - for a moment, I thought you were talking to the Germans, regarding their design choices, LOL.

And "My reasoning for this is....watch the NBA Playoffs live on Youtube Premium...." - credit where it's due, Youtube couldn't have timed that advert more perfectly if they'd tried.

And much love to the FRA for being such a good doggo.

[levelbearhuntingarmor]

Pennsylvania Class teaser at the beginning :)

[LucioFercho]

Derfflinger's trials were run at combat load and in SHALLOW water, the KM calculated that its actual speed in deep water would have been 28kts at 76.634shp.

[jollyjohnthepirate]

Love your furry research assistants. .

[taccovert]

Besides the 14in guns being bigger than the 13.5s and being in triples, the RN also couldn't allow the US to be pushing the Oil Fired envelope first. I think that's a major unspoken reason why the QEs sacrifice the 5th turret for a 24kt speed, while the rest of the battle line was 21kts and the BCs at this point were pushing 28kts. If the US was going to go oil fired 21kts, then the RN was going to go Oil Fired and FASTER to maintain total qualitiative superiority.

[neniAAinen]

just to add to shame of not seing Borodinos in action - their 14" shell was almost exactly as heavy as german 38cm one(749 vs. 750 kg).
At a lower speed, sure, but in the end it's 1.5 Bayerns of flying steel&explosives.

[djorco]

hey, were are the Rivadivias on that building list?, greeting from an Argentinian. Excellent documentary

[Alpha]

To Dr Clarke's point about Britain having to maintain a technological lead over the US, would this also apply to the Italians as they are nominally allied to Germany and Austria-Hungary at this point and could be seen as rivals for the Mediterranean?

[sharlin]

Great vid as always, you're still too harsh on the Germans though, yes the Derfflingers (I always go to call them the Lutzow class) were not revolutionary, but rather evolutionary, and they didn't really have anything new but they were still very capable ships when push came to shove, and again, tough and their 12-inch guns were quite capable of defeating the armour of their opponents. The QE's were marvellous ships, perhaps we'd have been better served if the RN had adopted Design Y (10 inch belt, and up to 31 knots with the same armament as a QE) but they were still great ships and the 15-inch Mk1 is one of the best naval guns ever made. But, their 13-inch belt was a very narrow strip, it wasn't a full waterline belt and they had the same armour layout as the iron dukes. They did have better TDS than the iron dukes and were superb gunnery ships. Its just a shame we didn't get more of them!

[LucioFercho]

A Borodino vs Derfflinger would have been an interesting match, since the Russian shells actually worked unlike the RN ones. I do, however, have no idea whether the Russian ships were as prone as the RN ones to exploding when hit.

[karlvongazenberg]

As OBSERVED by The Late Day Biplane, Britain more or less looks at the "Two power Standard", thus countering USN buildup makes sense.

[boreasreal]

come on go a little easy on the germans, they managed to drop the wing turrets ;)