Students Insights and Misunderstandings Explored #Shorts #Bible #religion #jesus

In this short from "Misquoting Jesus with Bart Ehrman," Bart takes us into the deep, often controversial exploration of biblical passages and their interpretations. Using Isaiah 53 as a case study, Bart looks into how this significant scripture has been traditionally understood as a prophecy about Jesus.

[unrecognizedtalent]

This is THE method! I gotta start using it

[russellmiles]

Yes, long Christian history picking out isolated texts out of any context or meaning: and ignoring the rest of the texts, contradiction and outright wickedness of the Christian god.

[XDRONIN]

I would just tell them to read Isaiah 41, ver.8
What is the name of the Servant?

[MHYT]

Yes, the Bible fits the pre-existing beliefs of Christians, despite what the Bible says. The Bible literally has hundreds of evil acts of God, but preachers completely change the meaning to suit their faith. For example:
- 2 Kings 2:23-25
- Genesis 6:1-6
Try to tell me these acts of God are not evil. I can give you a hundred more.

[benjamintrevino]

I laugh when Christians embrace the OT when the words are convenient and distance themselves from the OT when they find the words inconvenient.

[JayWest]

Would it fit the character of Jesus if the character was a metaphor for the people of The Way???

[willschryver]

I'm sorry, but I think San Peedro might just be wrong.

[Assyrianking]

You prouve what say Isaiah in other passages speak about same figure so

[quetzelmichaels]

Adam wields the fiery sword, judges the earth, and is 'made to be sin' as a worm.

YHWH judged the gods and became the snake.

YHWH is greater than I.

[PyrBen]

Isaiah prophesied that God would send a coming savior who would suffer for our sins. He didn't say the name Jesus, but it is written as prophetical text. Was he talking about Jesus? I don't know if Isaiah knew the savior would be Jesus specifically, but he predicted one would come. Jesus fulfilled the writings in Isaiah to a scary degree of accuracy. If you want to deny this clear prophesy, you'd better have some damn good counter evidence.

[sangyoonlee]

Well the descriptions in Isaiah seem to describe Jesus. Isaiah might not have been talking about Jesus, yet what's wrong with Christians finding Jesus in the book of Isaiah? It's a matter of perspective.

[haddow]

In any really well written literature, there is always more going on than just the plain actions and dialog of the characters. There is layered meanings for society. There are metaphors that each character plays into. There are allegories being made.

While those who don't believe it is inspired by God push that it is just the ramblings of many separate people, for those that see Godly inspiration in its passages, it is written by a very intelligent being, capable of layering multiple meanings into things.

Why did God just destroy Sodom and Gomorrah when other cities did similar things? For the same reason one of his prophets only ressurrected the dead son of one widow in a time when so many others lots their children. So it could be written down and be useful for future generations reading it.

In many cases, God made things turn out a specific way so the events of that time would fit as a symbol of future events to come. The biggest example of this is the passover in Egypt. He orchestrated the use of an unblemished lamb's blood as thr means of protecting one's family intentionally to symbolize Jesus sacrifice and how his blood being spilled would cause judgement of their sins to pass over them.

In the same way, God used the similar fate Israel was about to have to that of Jesus in the future.

So many aspects of life in Israel had symbolic meaning for the future and God's plans in the future. Take for instance, the Levites. The priests in Jerusalem. They didn't get land like everyone else in Israel. They were separate from everyone else. They were in the temple though. Their these aspects of the literal priests of the time was symbolically significant of those spoken about in the first ressurection in Revelations 20.

How about the temple itself. Many wonder why the bible spends so much time describing every aspect of it to us. This is because the temple is a symbol for mankinds relationship with God. More specicially, it shows the future structure of the kingdom of God when established under Jesus thousand year reign.

The temple signifies the heavens. Jesus as high priest will be able to freely access to most holy of holies, where God resides. Those ruling with him coming from the first ressurection will be able to go between Israel and the temple, or from Earth to Heaven. The 12 tribes of Israel are all the nations of Earth.

The entire construction and layout of Israel as a nation was symbolic for God's future plans for mankind.

Let's face facts. Many will balk at this, but the reason why isn't because the passages don't really line up with having multiple applications. When anyone reads Isaiah 53, it is super obvious it speaks of the things Jesus went through.

The whole reason they insist on a basic, dumb, color by numbers literal aspect to the writing of the passage is they don't want to believe God exists. They don't want to admit God could inspire human writers to foretell the future, nevermind doing it in a fairly literally advanfed way including parallel fulfillments of the passage.