Star Citizen 5800X vs 5800X3D + RTX 4090 Unlocking Maximum FPS!

How fast can you push the 5800X? Can it beat a un-tuned 5800X3D in star citizen? In-depth analysis by tuning a subscriber's PC who has a 5800X!

System upgrade Specs:
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Graphics settings
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Patch 3.19
Resolution: 1080p
Quality: Very High
Scattered Object Distance: High
Terrain Tessellation Distance: High
Planet Volumetric Clouds: Off
Field of View: Max
Motion Blur: 100
Chromatic Aberration: Off
Film: no

CHAPTERS
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0:00 Into
0:09 Subscriber Test setup & Stock result
0:30 Stock results (pre build)
0:40 options to better performance
1:40 Tuning, overclocking and optimization
5:07 Before and after in Orison
5:34 Orison 5800x Tuned vs 5800x3d Tuned and Stock
6:32 Lorville 5800x Tuned vs 5800x3d Tuned and Stock
6:52 Area 18 5800x Tuned vs 5800x3d Tuned and Stock
7:09 Performance Summary
7:47 Upgrade options
10:12 Conclusion

#5800 #rtx4090 #5800x3d

[jesusserrano]

You deserve more subscribers, my man!! People need to wake up and see that overlclocking isn't dead

[HotPotSoup]

I really appreciate the upgrade options section for specific setup recommendations, this helps so much. Thanks for your hard work!

[demiadeyemi]

Wow!!!! This is amazing. Best video yet. Can’t wait for
The next one 🎉

[jonahhekmatyar]

This is exactly the kind of videos we need right now for pc gaming. So many people will complain about unoptimized games (not including the valid UE4 stuttering problems) while running their PCs with tons of bloatware, jedec memory speeds, and games saved on a 10 year old hdd.
Great stuff as always.

[EdgarHTO]

Wow! Amazing video! Could you do an whole pc tuning video? I recently debloated my pc and did some performance work. Also you got me watching the whole video so keep going with that content. Amazing 🎉

[ToddyS]

Could you make a video going through the optimizations you did on the PC, specifically the processes, I noticed I have 285 processes running, and have no clue what to do to lower that number!

[SteinbergerGPPRo]

Wouldn't getting more of the same RAM be more beneficial since the game needs at least 24 GB to not be running in page file? I'd be surprised if a small memory overclock would make a larger performance upgrade than removing the entire memory bottleneck of being forced to write to a page file would be.

[commanderoof]

For AM4 the first upgrade you do is to a 32GB 4000MHz kit and down-clock it until your particular CPU is happy with it

5600x 2x32GB 3000MHz vs 4000MHz

Was an increase from about 20FPS to 30FPS in a particular spot on lorvill

Now i plugged in 2x32GB because 2 sticks will always overclock better than 4 sticks

And having 4 ranks is better than having 2 ranks [dual rank dimms have memory chips on both sides, single rank only have chips on 1 side]

16GB with todays DDR prices is a dumb move not only because 16GB vs 32GB in star citizen have a big performance uplift mainly in consistency but also because it costs bigger all

A kit rated at my manual overclock costs just a little over half of what i payed for my ram back in 2019 [bought spec 3000MHz]

Here in the UK 16GB vs 32GB is £50 vs £80 no reason to be getting 16GB this side of 2020 especially with 2023 prices ohh and its just £190 for 2x32GB 4000MHz with todays prices

[EpicunboxTV]

Love to see how do you actually tuned the memory, i have 5800x3d+ 32gb 3600Mhz memory. Could you make a video for memory tuning? Thanks.

[demiadeyemi]

Hey guys, as a newbie to pc gaming, what are the main things that I need to know to really make a difference in performance? I find these videos super helpful and will definitely reach out to game day personally for tuning support because he is the only one telling it as it is right now but I just wanted to reach out and see if you guys had any other recommendations for me? Thanks a lot guys!!

[Cyrane]

Is there a video as well which goes more in depth on the tuning? Specifically removing bloatware and windows processes? Those seems like simple steps that most users would be able to handle themselves without dipping into overclocking territory.

[Accuracy]

Yeah I generally just wouldn't buy Corsair memory in general if you think you might try overclocking it sometime. They're just too heavily binned when you buy the 3200 kit you can kind expect bad memory that won't really go higher than that. If I was really interested in overclocking RAM I maybe just start with one of Buildzoid's long rambling videos to get a better idea of what I'm buying.

I also my 5900x to a 5800x3D primarily for the jumps seen in EFT and Star Citizen. I only did this because I bought a 4090 and it's kind of sad knowing you aren't going to see performance increase in either of these game with a new GPU anyway. The 5800x3D does run annoyingly hotter and causes more fan spikes than 5900x that always seemed to be nice cool and obviously hurts other benchmarks. Gaming performance is good though and some specific cases like Star Citizen makes a pretty big difference.

The line that "The only thing untuned is your PC." is still stupid though. But the game dev software/engine side of it is largely out of our hands and CIG is slowly trying to make improvements. I have a feeling there's a lot more you can do as game/engine dev/software engineer than as end user trying to get a couple more mhz out of their ram. ...This means we must go post more on spectrum!! 😏😅

[usernomae]

Awesome video my dude, I've actually bought the ram that you were using in other video, the Delta T-Force 7200mhz
And I'm waiting to upgrade my cpu and motherboard, to a ryzen 9 7950x3d or maybe a ryzen 9 7900x3d
What motherboard would you suggest?

[mimo..]

Nice and informative video thanks. How one can check if their ram are a-die or b-die? Is there a software to check it?

[davidpartridge]

Couldn't have made a better video. I have a 3600x and weighing up a full upgrade to 7800x3d.

I think I'll just get a 5800x3d and a 4090.

[spacedogn]

Great vids, but i still don't understand how you tune the memory exactly. I'm on a 5800x3d, 7900xtx, 32g c16 3600mt ripjaws and the game is on a nvme....i'd love to tune my system to get the most out of it for SC, as long as it doesn't hurt the performance of other games...but you don't explain really what you change and why, or show a step by step to do so. I'd love for you to make a detailed video on this process.

[JustJohn_Gaming]

How can I get your help tuning my system? I thought about building a new AM5 system but I just dont have the funds to do so right now. I have also thought about upgrading to the 5800X3D and possibly a 4000 series GPU to hold me over for a few more years. I recently started streaming Star Citizen and OBS stats are showing both frames missed due to rendering lag (GPU) and skipped frames due to encoding lag (CPU). I switched from NVENC to x264 video encoding and that has all but eleminated skipped frames but I am still getting missed frames. So my limited knowlege tells me that my GPU isn't good enough? My current set up is 5600x, 3070FTW, 32gb 3600 16-18-18-38, SC installed on SSD. Thanks for any help and keep up the great work, really enjoyed your video.

[ToGrimmToWin]

I switched out a 5600x to a 5700x3d helped in several games 3600mhz 4x8gb cl16-19-19-39 7900gre steel legend 2700mhz core 2376mhz memory 995mv +15 power limit rebar on.

[JAnx]

Can you compare the 5700x / 5800x to an i5-13500 for a budget build?

[zd]

I have a 5800x with 32GB RAM DDR4 at 3400 speed, would I see performance improvements if I get the latest Ruben CPU & 64 GB 2x 32GB Sticks of DDR5 with 4000+ speeds, if so what kind of performance increase could I expect to see assuming budget is not a issue?