Logitech's Vertical Mice | MX Vertical and Ergo Lift

I tried Logitech's two veritcal mice, as I am looking for a mouse that can reduce the stress I feel in my wrist. Reviewers are saying the Lift is "better for smaller hands". But what does that mean?

[Aerothorn]

I'll also say: one reason you're getting that rub is that in the video, the desk is above your elbows. You want your desk to be at, or even slightly lower, than the level of your elbows at rest (and yes, this means your legs will be right up against the bottom of the desk when you're sitting!). That's not specific to vertical mice, that's a general ergonomics thing (and one that 99% of American desks fail at, because they were literally designed a 6 foot person - this will be less of an issue for you, but the shorter you are the worse it is) but it will definitely exacerbate the rub!

[JWNRW]

I have a left handed Lift and it has been a boon to my long stretches in front of a computer. Logitech's sizing tool indicated my hand was large but as the MX Vertical isn't available in a left-handed version, I ordered the Lift and have been totally satisfied. There is no issue with the wrist pressure for me -- I always have my office chair about 1/4" or so above the surface of my desk - whether sitting or standing, and no issues at all. The big bonus and main reason for purchasing the Lift was to reduce pain and discomfort in my elbow which has had recurring tendonitis for some years now. Perfect solution for me, ymmv.

[annissim]

I think the biggest pro for the MX Vertical is the rechargeable battery, which not only allows the mouse to be used while it's charging, but also makes the overall balance and weight better distributed

As for the ergonomic side, I have the MX Vertical and for me, the key aspect of using a vertical mouse (or any mouse for that matter) is to have your elbow at a 90º angle to the desk. The way it's showing in the video, your elbow is below desk level, so I'm guessing that's why it feels so uncomfortable. I also find that using a desk mat helps with the feeling of having your wrist brushing against the desk surface.

[brittanystorey]

As a woman with small almost child like hands I was tempted to try this for my tendinitis I already have a mouse pad with a raised jelly part that supports the wrist so I think the smaller mouse might work well for me. Thanks for the video!

[ahmadnaufaldai]

The biggest problem in this video is your table is not so ergonomic. You need your elbow to be higher then the desk surface if not completely level.

[footpath]

I bought both. Lift is rounded so it feels better in my hand. According to the Logitech's sizing chart the Vertical should be better for me

[lsy]

Mine is about 6.3 inches so I think the Lift vertical will suits me more! It's quite a new model and I couldn't find a lot of reviews on it on forums. Been undecisive between Lift & MX vertical as well. Thank you so much, Ithink I have made up my mind!

[loftlike]

It's not just about the hand size, but also how you hold/grip a mouse. For example, I have slightly larger hands than the medium size as Logitech has shown on their size chart, but I have a claw type grip. So, for me, the LIFT Ergonomic is a good to go option.
As for the wrist position, it is supposed to keep your wrists off the mousepad, but again as shown in this video, it is how you typically hold any mouse.
At the end fo the day, research for the best option based on your hand size + your grip type. Hope you find one that suits you the most!
Peace!

[cspensie]

I literally love that you made a video on I bought the MX vertical and I had issues reaching the buttons on the side but I think I might exchange it and buy Ergo lift.

[jannieschluter]

I use a normal, flat mouse. I rest my hand in a state that is in between handshake and horizontal. Just because a mouse is built in a horizontal and flat way, that does not mean that you have to force your hand and wrist to fully rest flat on top of it.

[byeongchangil]

Thanks for the review.
I think you can adjust your chair's height, or use a motion desk, which can change desk height by motors. That can reduce palm friction.
You also can use a sliding mouse pad, which has very low friction.

[bnyby]

Just to provided correct info so that people don't misunderstand:

1. Product pages for both models have a sizing guide to figure out the size of your hands. Just Ctrl+F for "sizing guide".
2. Both models support Bluetooth, so you don't necessarily need to use provided dongle.
3. As Dylan Holmes said, the desk is unergonomic because it's too high. If you have to lift your shoulder up (like at 3:26) to stop your arm from rubbing against the desk, then it's the desk that has to be adjusted first (even prior to thinking of buying a vertical mouse). If you have your arm pressed in that deep by the edge of the desk (like at 3:13), that's just tendinitis waiting to happen.

[zahari_s_stoyanov]

Today I tried both in a gadget store. Tested on a pad with a wrist prop, because I always tend to rest my wrist and drive the mouse with my fingers as much as possible - almost like a joystick. My hands are the same size as yours and to me both felt nice. However, I also tried the MX Ergo trackball mouse and I was surprised how natural it felt - you just rest your hand on it and your thumb does the tracking. Now I'm watching more reviews of all three to decide which one to buy

[wyup]

most comprehensive and real use review of these mice

[sep]

Just like what Dylan Holmes said, you need to lower your desk so that your arm is parallel with the top of the table or a little bit lower to avoid any part of your wrist from touching the top of the table thus avoid the rubbing. Also, you should have your mouse close to the edge of the table not in the middle of the table and that goes with your keyboard as well. Both devices need to be close to the edge of the table to avoid contact with your wrist. Another thing is when you move your mouse from side to side, you need to move your whole arm not bend your wrist side to side. This is why a lot of computer users get CTD due to the unnecessary bending of the wrist. Thank you.

[duchenedesignsolutions]

Mx vertical does pair via Bluetooth without a dongle with up to 3 devices. It tracks better when using the dongle though. Pairs great with iPads too.

[gilbs]

There is a sizing guide on Logitech's website. Not sure if this is recent, or existed at the time of this video. Basically, the Lift is for hands measuring 6.9cm/7.5in and below. MX vertical for >7.5in.

[richardkenan]

I use a folded hand towel or washcloth to rest my forearm when using my mouse. It only gives maybe 1cm elevation above the level of the mouse pad, but apparently it's an important 1cm.

[inonil]

very helpful, for someone like me who is having painful shoulder, neck after getting a normal mouse larger than my hand. I will try this one next. My hand is 6.5 inc. So will go for a smaller one. Thank you.

[EduardoSimioni]

I have the MX Vertical for a bit more than 3 years now.
In my case the wrist does touch (actually sits on) the desk, but I found that I rarely move my wrist, most of the times I'm just moving my fingers and a little bit the hand.
My hands are about the same size as yours. I don't hold the mouse in a way that it is filling the palm of my hand, there is some space in between, and I move the mouse using mostly my fingers instead of the hole hand. The sensitivity setting probably helps here.
I also have a rubber mat under the whole working area.