Explanation / Rant about AMD X870 and X870E Motherboards

Explanation / Rant about AMD X870 and X870E Motherboards

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GIGABYTE X870E Aorus Master
ASUS TUF Gaming X870-Plus Wifi
MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk Wifi
ASRock B650 PG Lightning ($150) -
ASRock X670E PG Lightning ($200) -

► TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Welcome to my X870 / X870E Motherboards Explained video!
0:54 Why New Motherboards Usually Launch Alongside New CPUs
2:16 Rant: X870 / X870E uses the same PROM21 chips as X670 / X670E
4:46 What advantages do X870 / X870E actually provide?
5:38 X870 / X870E pricing vs X670 / X670E
8:41 What’s the deal with the 3 X870 motherboards I’m covering?
10:19 GIGABYTE X870E Aorus Master
13:12 ASUS TUF Gaming X870-Plus Wifi
15:14 MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk Wifi

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[UzairW]

I'd pay good money to NOT having idiotic AI branding on my PC parts, thank you very much!!

[phantomtec]

11:20 CORRECTION: Internal HDMI port, usually used nowadays for people who would like to utilise an internal panel in their case peeps, Overclockers don't give a stiff pertaining to this. Its internal so as to bypass routing a cable out back into the motherboard or GPU. Thanks Paul and Peace!❤❤☮☮

[Enju]

Remember when motherboards used to only cost like $200 usd for the best of the best? Pepperidge farm remembers

[Jzwiz]

If you want an overbuilt board, the last gen asrock x670e taichi is plenty and already had usb 4. Only appeal of the new ones for me is stuff like quick release and moving around some buttons/leds

[CGInferno]

Thanks for this. Was debating on getting an X870 or X670 and i saw the price difference which made the X670 a no brainer. Saved over £200

[satokotsu]

im waiting for the day they make 10gb a standard for consumer boards without using another add in card

[mikek]

I can appreciate wanting to save as much as possible. But there are also a lot of quality of life improvements with spending just a bit more cash on a motherboard. Take the MSI Tomahawk x870 for example. On that board you get screwless heatsinks, GPU lock, Error code reader.. etc. Plus, gen 2 boards almost always iron out the bugs from gen 1 boards. I would never pay retail, and anyone who currently uses a b650 or x670 board has little reason to upgrade. But for new system builders looking to finally get on AM5 I think these new X870 and the inevitable b850 boards will be the better buys. Especially when they inevitably fall in prices.

[JeremyArchie]

I'm happy with B650E performance as it is.
HUB already stated that the gaming performance of X870 is virtually identical to X670 (and most likely B650 as well).

[karlstenator]

I absolutely can't wait to get it on with my Aorus AI snatch. Nothing sells computers like digital fanny named features.

[DankHobbs]

You need to shame these manufacturers for not including debug leds, etc in these expensive ass motherboards.

[djaces]

X870/X870E is too bloody expensive for what you get versus the X670E counterparts.

[DigitalDemonicDavros]

The prices are out of control in Australia, the Msi Carbon wifi x870e comes in at $920aud

[RighteousBruce]

thanks paul nice to see a non news video from you and more of you int he week we do notice and appreciate :)

[carlkidd]

I've got an ASUS Prime X670E-Pro WiFi running a 7800X3D. I "should" be good for another 5 or 6 years so whatever Intel or AMD drops in the meantime will just be a "fun to watch" video/information. Sorry PC makers and Auto Industry, but I certainly do not need a new "thing" every year, advertising to the contrary.

[albundy]

The extra HDMI on one the Boards can probably be used for displays inside the case or on the front of the case.

[nleippe]

That MSI Tomahawk board is unique. It's the only X870(E) board available that allows M.2_2 to run at full 5.0x4 by disabling USB4 instead of making M.2_2 share bandwidth from the PCIe x16 slot lanes.

[DJ-fwmi]

My B450 Tomahawk handled my R7 1700 to my R7 5700x3d with bios updates since 2017 for 130$. Look at the longevity and performance increase over 7/8 years. Still strong as hell and AM4 is the GOAT.

[AshtonCoolman]

There will be differences in UEFI features and RAM support. The 800 series chipsets will likely all support CUDIMM DDR5 with the Ryzen 8000 and 9000 CPUs. They also supposedly made changes to improve the memory traces on 800 series boards. The chipset itself is the same, but other features may make these worth it for 9000 series CPU owners. I have a 7800X3D on a ROG Crosshair X670E Hero so I can only hope that I'll get UEFI updates that add things like CUDIMM support with newer CPUs.

[rododendron]

10 years ago a Mobo that cost 200 USD had debug display, on and reset button on them. Now you need to pay almost 500 for these "features".

[VolcanoPenguin]

Why did AMD skip from 600 series boards to 800? Where's X770 and B750?