ex-Watchtower elder, translator on 'invisible' parousia.

Igor Kocelj

[ilkayexquisite]

Sometimes you have to wonder if they are even trying to make sense

[sterlingmartin]

1914 is the lynch-pin for the entire two-class, anointed/unanointed, system. If 1914 is false, then Faithful and Discreet Slave teaching falls apart as does Jesus' invisible return.

[bretpowers]

This is what began my awakening. When they changed the teaching that when christ comes in the clouds from occuring in 1914 to the end of the tribulation, therefore the supposed "clouds of invisibility" were no longer used to describe his invisible coming in 1914. Therefore I questioned in my mind, if his coming on the clouds is after the tribulation then there is no longer any text to support an invisible coming.

[urbanecobeauty]

Most followers of JW can’t explain 1914. It’s the most confusing doctrine they have, and their whole religion falls on it. — Yeshua (Jesus) doesn’t come this many times. Also, when he does come, which no one knows the day nor the hour, but his people are to always be ready as his followers who listen and obey his commands - on Gods great day when Yeshua does come ALL will know, and ALL eyes will see!