EXPLAINED: SCOTUS Ruling on Trump's Immunity Case

"Donald Trump has immunity from criminal prosecution for some actions he took as president while fighting to subvert the 2020 election, the Supreme Court ruled Monday, further complicating efforts to put Trump on trial in Washington on criminal charges that he engaged in fraud to try to cling to power.

The largely 6-3 decision, which divided the court along ideological lines, immediately knocked out some of the central allegations that special counsel Jack Smith leveled against Trump, including claims that he attempted to weaponize his Justice Department to concoct or amplify false claims of voter fraud."*

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[IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT]

Anticipating the irony of Fourth of July posts celebrating patriotism while endorsing sovereign immunity for the head of state. Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

[Daphenini]

This is very scary and I believe I have detected low-key trepidation in some Republican lawmakers facial expressions. This country just ceased to exist in its idealistic version.

[avigrett]

This ruling is very unconstitutional. The Supreme Court set out to achieve two things . 1. Protect Trump 2. Expand the power of the Supreme Court . Now the Supreme Court gets to decide what is immunity, absolute immunity and presumed immunity. All Trump cases will now go own forever . America is now officially a third world country where the king is the law .

[twassell]

Both my grandfathers who were in active combat in world war two would be absolutely ashamed to be americans if they were still alive today. Sad day for America.

[melvinreed]

I just came here to see how Cenk and Ana were going to somehow invest most of their time on this horrendous decision criticizing Pres. Biden and the Democrats.

[ChrisPack-tkpx]

When you vote for a clown you get a circus..

[blazayblazay]

BIDEN NEEDS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS NOW!

[renjiabarai]

I thought the leader of our country is supposed to be the best and the brightest, not the most criminal 🤷

[edwardj.]

The Supreme Court is supposed to follow 3 main paths to reach a ruling. 1). The Constitution. 2). Congressional legislation and/or precedent. 3). The intent of the Founders based on the writings and the clues they left behind. (In that order).

In other words...if there is nothing to apply from the Constitution...they move to option 2 - Congress and any relevant legislation. They can also look at precedent. When none of these things apply because they don't exist, then they are supposed to base rulings on the intent of the Founders, based on evidence from the time period.

That being said....there is nothing in the Constitution granting the President these sweeping powers of immunity. It doesn't exist. There is also no legislation giving this kind of sweeping power to the President. There is no historical precedent for this. This egregious ruling means that Richard Nixon's crimes would have been just fine. He would have been immune.

The 6 member majority on the court are not legitimate justices. They are 6 corrupt politicians in robes...nothing more. They need to be referred to as such from this point forward until they are gone.

What these 6 politicians did was create constitutional law and an interpretation of law out of thin air. They did it with no legal basis. They literally just made it up to satisfy their own personal ideological and political biases and to help their political ally. An absolutely disgraceful move.

What they were supposed to do in the absence of text addressing this issue in the Constitution, and in the absence of Congressional legislation....was make a finding based on the intent of the Founders. While the Founders didn't really address immunity in the Constitution, they very clearly made it known that a President must follow laws and is subject to the law. They clearly stated that a President is answerable to high crimes and misdemeanors. If The Founding Father's thought a President has the sweeping immunity that these 6 Supreme politicians came up with out of thin air, then they would not have put that clause in the Constitution.

Secondly, we know that the Founders were very leery of giving an executive too much power. In fact, we know that The Founders themselves were vehemently opposed to this, because they were dealing with an oppressive and intrusive King of England who tried to impose his will on the Colonies. Does anyone really believe that the Founders would have wanted to create a King? This is obvious. So if these 6 Supreme corrupt politicians would have followed normal protocols for reaching a ruling, they would have had to look at the intent of the authors of the Constitution and would have had to come to the conclusion that a President shouldn't have this kind of sweeping immunity. They could have only come up with a narrow scope (that wouldn't apply to Trump) that a President is immune from prosecution for orders or mistakes during a time of grave national emergency, like a war on American soil. Something of that sort that would very narrow in scope could be seen as legitimate. But not the lunacy that we saw today on July 1st, 2024.

[allanpaterson]

USA just became a Banana Republic with Judges for hire!

[AzrenthestHighKing]

Keeping Classified Documents and Doing January 6th are Not Official Actions as President. So he can be Charged.

[VincentValentine]

When I was learning about WW2 in high school, I always questioned "how could people go along with that?". Now I know. The worship of a politician, mixed with propaganda, religion, a media that cares more for money than the truth, and a politician promising to rid the land of all of the people they hate. Add a WWE, Reality TV, and Jerry Springer mindset to the blind followers, and this is what you get. My grandfather, who fought in WW2 and Korea is rolling in his grave.

[libertybaseone]

PLANETARY LEVEL THREAT, EVERYONE. THE WORLD IS GONNA BE DRAGGED INTO THIS MESS, TOO.

[James-dzek]

The scariest thing from this ruling is finding out just how insane justice Jackson and Justice mayor really are.

[MaddogJones]

As a Canadian watching American politics I kinda feel what the Polish must have felt in the early 1930's watching German politics...

[jfaristide]

Okay, so what's good for the goose is good for the gander, right? Biden should just "officially" send Seal Team Six over to Trump to do what Seal Team Six does...

[dwoodcob]

I have been told that as an Australian I am not "free: as I live under a monarchy. Imagine fighting a war of independence, shedding blood over the idea of not being subservient to an absolute monarch. To only then start electing one. I prefer my ceremonial monarchy to having an elected monarch in the executive of government that actually wields power. Imagine actually arguing for any elected official to be above any law as long as they break the law performing an "official duty". Seems like Americans have a monarch with just more steps.

[marvelsProtege]

Trump when he gets into power he'll not leave and he has the power to stay in power

[pulsarstargrave]

No one is supposed to be above the law, including members of SCOTUS!

[ManuelMorales-kmhq]

this decision is absolutely disgusting