FAIRYTALE COSTUMES: it's giving renfaire but why?

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Written by Mina Le and Sophie Carter
Edited by Israh S. and Mina Le

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“Reconsidering the Use of Gender Stereotypes in Medieval Romance: figures of vulnerability and of power,” Lawton (2016)

0:00 - intro
3:40 - what makes a fairytale film?
11:58 - the heroines' wardrobe
18:16 - the villainess' wardrobe
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Every time Mina said that people wore *certain garments* because they were fashionable and not of their evilness I just imagined people from that era being like "hehehee (evil laugh) I'm wearing my evil head piece" 😂😂😂😂

tattyg
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The Grimms collected old European folk tales and transformed them into educational stories for children. A LOT of the stories had evil mothers, which the Grimms decided to switch to evil step mothers, because they felt evil mothers would have been a bit much and that kids would relate more with evil step moms.

Zinetha
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to me being smart and having a black cat sitting next to you is the definition of power

kelianburo
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on traditional ideals of women: the women were not expected to work outside the home, but women did bust their asses in the home, and Snow White, Cinderella especially showcase this. and considering that there is a 100% chance that a woman will labor in her home and like a 0% chance that a man will fight a dragon IRL, i think the passive, traditional princesses deserve respect

Emily-rvue
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10:50 My biggest pet peeve in “historical” movies are when men are shown with unlaced doublets like they’re jackets, with their undershirt used as a shirt!

The modernization of historical men’s fashion in particular is a symptom of toxic masculinity, where men aren’t shown wearing proper historical attire because it’s too ornamental, or bc they’d have to wear heels, tights, or wigs (Gasp!!) This leads to a lack of appreciation of men’s fashion so it conforms to modern societal views of gender and masculinity.

Charlotte-gvto
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the dress? beautiful, the jewellery? stunning, the crown + lip combo? absolutely immaculate

CoelhoNathalia
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Classifying "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" as a Fairy Tale movie is honestly hilarious in itself.

Alias_Anybody
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What we can all agree is that Ella Enchanted is an ICONIC movie

asdrashuet-doyle
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Recently watched abitfrank’s video on the original Italian Rapunzel, and honestly, I don’t know WHY that version doesn’t get adapted more often. Rapunzel in the Basile version masterminds her own escape and defeats her OWN villain. I think Grimm’s Rapunzel is still more hauntingly beautiful, but if you’d rather have a smart resourceful Princess, check out Petrosinella by Basile.

whatalsaid
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8:10 in defense of Danielle, the movie explained that she had a special bond with her father and one of the activities they did together was reading books. „Utopia“ the book from which she quotes within the movie, was her favorite book that she read with her father, so it kinda makes sense that she can quote it. I don’t think that she’s necessarily well educated, rather that from the beginning she is made out to be a curious character who is interested in knowledge. Of course it’s not an accurate reflection of the time-period and more appealing for us modern girls but I think she is a very well made out character, as she is pretty coherent. The movie never tries to make her „not like other girls“. She’s just the way she is and Drew Berrymore did a fantastic job at portraying her.

amaanmansour
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Me when I'm ready to be called a beautiful dove: 😇

Me when I get called an evil hag instead: 🧐😈

friartuck
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I also assumed that Ursula was queer coded, but then was so fabulous and likeable. I think the artists responsible for her actually made her as a bit of a love letter to drag queens they were friends with. Which is probably why the coding feels less maligned with her.

clairegamble
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I've been into otome isekai "historical fantasy" webcomics lately and it's making Disney and Hollywood costuming look like it came out of an encyclopedia 😂

inconspicuous-nobody
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this is such a cool and interesting video !! as for the question at the end, my favorite fairytale growing up was rapunzel. i love that, in the version i read, the witch was like “fine i get it, your pregnant wife has weird cravings, you can steal this plant from my garden this one time, but i swear if u come back here again u owe me ur firstborn” like obviously a bit evil but pretty reasonable compared to most villains! and then the guy COMES BACK ANYWAY, knowing that the consequences of stealing this plant is the loss of his child, and he’s just like “listen the wife just really wants this plant to munch on ok” and that’s how rapunzel ends up in the witch’s tower, named for the plant she was traded away for.

plushdragonteddy
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Respectfully, I think you overlooked an important source of this style, which is the genre of fairy tale and legend (like, Arthurian legend) children's books that became quite popular in the later 19th century. Illustrated by artists such as Crane, Greenaway, HJ Ford, and Caldecott, they were not only popular "on paper" and in painting, etc., but were also quite influential on the performing arts into the early 20th century—including early film. Artists of the Pre-Raphaelites and Arts and Crafts movements loved combining aspects of Medieval and Renaissance fashion to create their own aesthetic of "pastness." (With Greenaway and some others, that extends into the 18th century as well.)

Anyway, I enjoyed the video a lot, thank you! But I think it's important to note that "fairy-tale historical mashup" has a long history and some pretty clear links to that earlier style.

PurelyCoincidental
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AHHH the new set up feels so fairytale-like! And the outfit 💗 It’s perfect for this video

faeriegloss
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Mirror, Mirror's costuming leaves me in awe every time. Everything is so out there and vibrant and full of details to feast your eyes upon, I love it to bits.

LunaWitcherArt
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I honestly love what they did with Ella Enchanted. It's pure 2000's cheese, and some hella Whimsygothic inspiration.

candy-vintageghoul
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I think that you can tell a story through costuming and it's the attention to detail that we often don't notice. When the Star Wars costumes were on tour a number of years ago, there was so much information for the styles and techniques used to create those garments that took from cultures all over the world. Costuming is something that is often taken for granted, but we appreciate it and think it's wonderful that they care enough to cater to us.

bnemther
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I think for fairy tale films the lack of a specific time period is often done on purpose because written and oral fairy tales are detached from time and place, making them timeless. For period dramas accurate costumes and locations add to the story but I think the opposite is true for fairy tales.

brynmcclennan