Greed and the Downfall of Payday 3

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Greed, false promises, and disappointment. Everything wrong with Payday 3, all in discussed in one video. Payday 3 and Starbreeze became one of the most controversial and colossal failures of any video game. This video breaks down what exactly went wrong with the game and why it continues to fail. Payday 3 is a dead game only less than half a year after release, forgotten by most of the gaming world. This is the story and an analysis of the downfall of Payday 3.

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0:00 ➪ Intro
2:02 ➪ Recap
PART 1: Pricing
3:19 ➪ Prices/Bundles
4:59 ➪ Value Comparison
8:45 ➪ DLC Quality Evaluation
9:59 ➪ No Upgrade Path
11:23 ➪ False Promises
12:58 ➪ Sales
14:48 ➪ Comparison: Halo Infinite
18:03 ➪ Comparison: Darktide
20:49 ➪ Payday 3 Regression
26:11 ➪ Comparison: Helldivers 2
29:19 ➪ Promise to Change Prices
PART 2: Updates
31:51 ➪ DLC Roadmap/GaaS
33:43 ➪ Poor Quality Updates
35:35 ➪ Promise to Remove Challenges
36:35 ➪ Drip Feed of Basic Features?
38:29 ➪ Priority to Paid DLC
42:45 ➪ Other Misguided Priorities
PART 3: Content
44:24 ➪ Is DLC Cut Content?
46:01 ➪ Weapon Pack
48:27 ➪ Skills/Skill Trees
52:08 ➪ New Armor
54:01 ➪ Summary/My Thoughts

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Thanks for checking out this video guys. This is likely the last time I will put this much effort into a Payday related video. I'm still not really sure what the main purpose of me making this video was supposed to be. Informative? Calling the game out? Well whatever the case, this makes it clear what my stance is on current payday as a whole, and I'm just tired of covering this game.

Where we go from here I don't know. I've been playing a lot of Helldivers 2, so it's almost guaranteed that there's gonna be a vid or two in that (my goal is to get one out next week). Playing a lot of Darktide as well, but I'm not so sure I have good things specifically for videos. I also still have lots of old stuff I promised to share like Lethal Company, Sons of the Forest, and some old stream highlights like Red Dead Redemption 2 and Doom. But then again I make as many false promises as the payday devs do

GeneralMcBadass
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How ironic that the game about the practice of greed fell victim to its own premise

cliff_guygames
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From what I can gather, it just seems like they released PD3 under the impression they could have a similar content roadmap to the the last few years of PD2, while skipping the part where they actually build a solid foundation of fun mechanics that made PD2 so replayable.

Kw-irl
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Payday advertising "unready button" and basic bugfixes like "the guns YOU OWN will appear in your loadout" is comical

klovercast
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They BEGGED for cash to develop it, and then just didn’t develop the mf game

TabiTheCat
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The fact that they promised a ton of free additional content, but then almost immediately started selling paid heists that were super overpriced is what pissed me off, made me drop the game and regret purchasing it.

RazzleTheRed
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Dropping news through livestreams without change logs is so shady. It feels like theyre intentionally making news harder to access in large quantities without spending hours watching all of their discussions which most people wouldnt do

clover
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you know you screwed up when youtubers known for playing your games specifically are calling out your BS

saunshilu
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It says a lot about Payday 3 that a low level crew couldn't even go quiet on the first mission, because all the tools of heisting had been sealed behind levels.

darwinism
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I have always told people that these "always online" games are all going to be gone one day and you are left with no game to play. Its amazing how games just launch without offline mode and servers are just complete garbage every single time.

demoral
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The writing is what completely sunk my interest in the concept, beyond the game just being a QOL nightmare. The idea of “the gang’s been robbed and is broke, vulnerable, and powerful folks want them dead” is a pretty decent way to go for a sequel. So they start over with nothing… except a bunch of high powered crime bosses who drop what they’re doing to offer them inane, bland missions barely connected to them. Why is Shayu, a San Francisco triad leader, tracking down rare metals shipments in New York? Why is The Butcher, the dangerous Croation arms dealer, asking you to knock over a random jewelry store? Wasn’t Blaine Keegan’s whole motive about trying to leave crime behind to be a legitimate oil tycoon? Why is he suddenly able to track down a cybersecurity master’s penthouse based on their encryption? Every returning face is just back because “Look everyone Locke is back, you loved Locke didn’t you?”, which completely deflates any stakes the premise had because apparently after a few quick heists every nemesis of the gang is dead besides a shadowy figure who we effectively know nothing about.

Why don’t contractors talk to you during missions any more? Why don’t the heisters say much of anything? Why is preplanning based on what random prizes drop from missions? The whole thing feels like some clueless suit at Deep Silver or Embracer or whatever said “game needs weapon airdrops because Call of Duty has them” without fundamentally understanding why anyone played Payday games in the first place.

mattiatorX
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Game developers need to realize that "Player good will" is a currency that is VERY hard to earn and VERY easy to spend all in one day.

Kevin-xweo
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It is crazy that Payday 3 only has 422 players and Payday 2 still has 31k.

EziosBladez
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Starbreeze going back on being able to upgrade from the standard edition by stealth retracting the FAQ is a new low. Great video as always

naturefub
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i knew it was over when unready was a roadmap feature

CssHDmonster
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Payday 3 not even worth pirating at this point

dirtyhermit
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14:49 The "Other people do it worse" argument is why corporations are able to get away with screwing their consumers. We need to call out all forms of bs no matter how big or small.

Heydad
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"To avoid repeating the same mistake." I don't think they will be another mistake in the future from these guys, as the cash cow that was Payday 2 finally slowed. A shame for the whole franchise, really.

gigaberos
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Mr. Badass, I have been watching your videos since around 2013. My best friend and I had heard about Payday 2, and I looked it up on YouTube to see any guides.

We unfortunately had purchased the game on console, Xbox 360 to be specific, and neither of us ever really had the money to afford a computer, and too many of our other friends who are still dear to us wouldn’t be able to make the switch either. We were fine with only the Armored Transports and associated content for DLC, because we at least had YouTube videos to see the new DLCs and the base game was a great, feature-complete product that we could still sink hundreds of hours in.

A few years later, I was doing something else online when the briefest hint caught my attention: Payday 2: Crimewave Edition. Sold on the promise of parity with PC, but only really hoping for whatever we could get, we both quickly purchased the game and sunk further thousands of hours. Every heist, every build, every gun tried and tested a thousand times and back again. When they announced they were dropping support, we were upset that we didn’t get the White House heist or a myriad of others, but we enjoyed what we had and still could play the game, because Payday 2: Crimewave Edition was a feature complete game that was still a lot of fun for what was there.

In preparation for a new console generation, we saved up for months to get the Series X, mostly for Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Game (which we still enjoy given the state of Payday 3), but with the ultimate goal being the next installment of our favorite co-op shooter.

In spite of all of the lies and betrayals of the past, we still trusted Overkill to at least give us a good showing. Regardless of their many sins, they always made a game that was fun and worth playing.

Then Payday 3 came out.

The cynicism and anger is not from you, sir. This game and this company does not deserve anything less. Make no mistake, of all the wounds that technical difficulties, content creators, or the community at large could have inflicted upon Payday 3, the killing blow was delivered by Overkill and Overkill alone. I wish only the best for Payday 3 when it is actually released. The stunted abortion that takes its place now is merely a cruel embarrassment to everyone who believed in it.

Thank you for your time.

DoctorEvilTheGamer
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To my understanding Deep Silver is apart of Embracer i don't think the Payday franchise has long now before it cease to exist

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