Why I Really Left Lineage 2

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Lineage 2
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[fhybrpu]

its all about that nostalgic feeling we all have for l2 from times to times

[ArisenComputers]

Clob, you are absolutely correct regarding to why we go back to this crap! We want to feel like it felt back in 04 - 05, nearly 20 years later i still crave that feeling.

[Kaplar]

quitting L2 is easy, I've done it hundreds of times

[homieraj]

It is all about the nostalgia. Once every like 2 years I go back to this game just to experience the nostalgia again.
I play private H5 servers only, because everything GoD and beyond is crap.
It usually takes 2 months for a mid-rate private H5 server to collapse but oh boy I always enjoy the ride.

[guilhermecaiado]

Interlude was the begining of the end.
The game's prime was C3.

People were helping eachother to craft amazing gear and people enchanting beyond +4 were considered crazy, sometimes they showed up with incomplete sets on raids and sieges just because they were too greedy.

Clans and wars created real rivalry and everyone had to help everyone.
It was the players against the world until they were mature enough to control the castles.

[MultiRedFan]

I cant tell you how many times I broke something when my enchant failed.

Still, the nostalgia is there. Private servers is the way to go, preferrably pvp servers. With the right mindset that nothing will last forever, its actually a nice experience. And yes, its the music and nostalgia.

[HijiHakimaru]

I know I'm super late to the party, but I'm going to have to agree. Short story: I started in c2. My wife and I did a ton of RP that happened to fit the content. We made our first billion Adena (huge deal at the time)...then got hacked and lost all of our gear (S80, which took forever), and, since we had no way to prove that we got hacked, our compensation was bound S80 gear for each of our characters. We stopped playing the game for some time from the shock of putting in 5+ years to have it all taken away that quickly. A few months later, they added the pin requirement for account. Almost like it was in response to a massive hack. We came back to it on occasion to find out how the game has transformed, and we just kept seeing it go downhill. Then, there was a glimmer of hope: Lineage II Classic. We could play L2, with all of the quests and story just like when we started out. Come to find out, that was a lie too. It should've been called L2 Classic Lite and Gutted...and rushed.

Anyway, to the point, now. When you played (pre-whatever-it-has-become-now), did you read the Lore, the quests were written by people that cared and lined up with the rich history of Aden, Elmore (Elmoreden), Gracia, all of the drama with Shunaiman and Shilen (and Eva). There was so much to get lost in and add to with RP. We came back to L2 over the weekend "just to see". What even is this? Can it even be called a game anymore? How does one "play" this? It sounds like the point is to level as quickly as you can, buy gear (for real money) and...yeah... I just wanted one quest line that tied into the story. Is that a thing? Or are they all just...gone gone? Asking for a friend.

[DaniboyBR]

You started playing after the game was corrupted by greed, before that, it was a wonderful game, filled with wonderful people that used it to have fun, connect, RP, after C3 and C4 greed started to seep in, after Interlude it was already over, admins from private and official servers could only see money in front of them, they stopped improving the game, thinking of ways to make it into an alternate world where you could be a hero or a villain, a king or a pauper, and turned it into this awful thing it is today, a money-grabbing Casino.

[artysarryn]

I'm watching this video almost a year after it came out, but it's still true. I played for nostalgia, and I played like an addict, I spent like 10~20% of my salary, and the items I bought didn't even make much of a difference to my character. It's very sad to play Lineage 2.

[Disionable]

I was first introduced to Lineage 2 by my brother some updates before the Kamael update. Back when it was pay to play, I only saw little of the game through private/cracked servers, none of us were really into online payments and all and our parents were rather conservative with anything concerning money online, so I never really got to play the game. We really only spent rather little time in the game back then until it just didn't work for us anymore and we didn't get another chance to play it for free.

When Lineage went free to play with Goddess of Destruction, my brother had already left the world of games and moved on but I wanted to try it and play it again, as I always wished to play it again someday. I tried multiple characters, genders, classes, races and builds - nothing that really reached high levels though. I could just never bring myself to grind the game like others did, especially since I was the only one amongst my friends to play it and I never got to find a clan or guild or anything like that. I was a lone wolf in the game for almost all the time I played it.

I never actually spent any money on the game, event though I did really enjoy it. And yes, it pretty much was just a grindfest filled with good music, an enjoyable artstyle and a lot of nostalgia. I never got to do any PVP, as I never reached a high level with any of my chars. I just couldn't bring myself to grind that much or spend any money. Highest char I had was a female elven warrior level 82 or something like that. That was before the update, where they made it possible to get to level 85 in an hour though. Before this update, it actually meant something to me to reach those "higher" levels, thinking about the cool gear others with that level had and the monsters they would fight. After that update, I never actively played it again because to me, it just ruined a lot.

What I loved and still love is the music of the game as well as the sound design, the artstyle and classes/races and just the general region of Aden and all. I loved the idea of being in a siege or a clan or playing PVP but never got around to doing any of that. I loved casually booting the game up after a regular day of school and just grinding a little and seeing my chars level up and get stronger - seeing progress.

What killed the game for me were multiple things:
The built in bot that was added some time ago - there were already bot programs before, but I wanna play the game to actually play the game and not let it run in the background. It's a game and not an album I leave running in the background.
Secondly, the streamlining of the player's path. It was good to have some sort of guidance, as I personally was lost in the vast world of Aden, with no clear path to follow. But it was just getting too much and honestly, the whole idea of every race beginning their journey in Talking Island Village put me off a lot when I started with Goddess of Destruction. I vividly remembered fighting spiders at the Frozen Waterfalls as an orc, the bright areas surrounding Elven Village and the dark and gloomy surroundings of the Dark Elven Village. Coming back to the game and having the same, streamlined start with every race was very disappointing to me. Of course, if pals wanted to play different races, then it was easier to play together, but I don't think that it would be worth it for that.
Thirdly, the game's heavy emphasis on its pay to win system just put me off a lot and I felt like it only got worse as time went by. I never spent a single dime on the game and I am happy I never did.
Lastly, it pissed me off incredibly much to see, that a new player could reach level 85 in the blink of an eye, whilst I remember the joys and the time spent grinding to 40, 60 and 70. It felt like all the time I spent grinding, on and off for quite a while, was for nothing. Furtermore, after reaching 85 in that new patch, I just lost the drive to play and see what else the game has in stock for me. I had just seen enough.

If I could, I would play the actual pay to play versions before Goddess of Destruction again, especially with some company by my side. But I really would advise anyone against playing the live version of the game, regardless if it's the real live servers or the classic ones. They are just not what people loved and got attached to and I am still sad to acceopt it.
And yes, I know, there's always the option of playing on private servers and all but to me, that never felt like I was doing "the real thing" - it just didn't mean anything to me, if that makes sense.

And as I had never really come back to the game again, I only ever watched some youtube content to see where the game is at right now and where it it heading and I gotta give some mad props to Clobberstomp, to bringing out that much content for such a niche game - and no, I don't think the game is very small but it is far from being in the size of the likes of other multiplayer games. Back then, it might've been massive or at least felt massive, but I have never personally seen anyone in real life again, who knew or talked about Lineage after the free to play change. Good content man, and I would say keep it up but just keep it up for other games you're passionate about. Lineage 2 is just not what it once was and we should all move on.

[aarontrupiano]

5:31-6:24 this was one of the big reasons i left was not being able to make money by grinding mobs. coming out of grinding all day to only a couple mil said more than enough. playing bdo for the first time was kind of a shock as to how much easier it was to make money. just 1 hour there even in bad grind zones will get you way more money than can be made all day on l2 if you don't pay.
i still occasionally log in to look around though

[jamesmatthew]

I played Prelude (chronicle 0) through Interlude (C6) when it was a monthly subscription.

It went pay to win because NCSoft saw how much L2Extreme (private server) was making. Hands down the most fun I ever had playing this game.

[FeeyaSedai]

Not me sitting here hoping to hear a reason being "I found this amazing group of friendly and fun people in FFXIV that won me over!" Lol.

[TrynePlague]

For nearly 20 years, every year, I have to go back to L2 at least a couple days. Just feels like home everytime. But only servers up to Hellbound.

[agnekaleuse]

Hey, u thinking about doing guild wars 2 videos again?

[ganemgg]

that feeling when I crafted my first Sword of Miracles....and my Arcana Mace...it used to be the top mage weapon in my server back in the day....

[wil]

The only way i was able to keep up without putting money in, (back in the days) was when I was leading a clan and was able to take over Aden in a castle siege. The money that came in was insane in a server that was populated with active players. I quit ever since 2011 when awaken classes became a thing because it felt like the game became so dumbed down to appeal to the masses that classes weren't unique anymore. I think it was 2011, man it's been so long.

[CHiQoooooo]

I started playing lineage on C4, and why I love old l2 rather than new is that I could see the endpoint of the grind... NOW I need kvintibiliardtrillion things to drop... it feels like infinite misery.
I love this game, but unfortunately there is no trust in this company.

[VioletEyesLuna]

i quit like 2 years ago and decide to make my own private server for small circle of friends like 20ish people it was way waaaay better than playing official one.

[happylv]

Memories bring me back to lineage 2 but i see noone online