DON'T go all in on the Unmatched TMNT Kickstarter!!!

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The Unmatched TMNT Kickstarter is out! Andrew is a little upset about it. Enjoy!!!

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If you’re exclusively playing unmatched as a board game, and your minis are all unpainted, yeah it’s expensive. As someone who buys and paints minis in other areas of the tabletop space, I’d say $4.35 a mini is the low side of average. Also, the original Eastman and Laird tabletop RPG got dug up and kickstarted like a year or less ago, and these would be great for that. I’m arguably more excited about the extra toppings than anything.

gregmiller
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At the end of the day the price is set what people are willing to pay. They can set the price at whatever they want, but the value is only what we are willing to pay

preacherbeeman
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a lot of people complains about the all in package even if they dont really care about the additional stuff. I think the $80 package is fair even if you add in the villain deck, if the villain decks are really well made, has cool mechanics and are tested really well which makes it a 6 hero set. 2 marvel sets costs the same but without the coop gameplay.

imkester
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I think the best deal gameplaywise is $80 pack + villain deck. Other things are nice quality of life/superfan stuff. Altough I’d like to have matching component(acrylic mouser/rat tokens because footsoliders are acrylic), I can’t justify the price of deluxe component add-on.

_Iridium
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I feel like the base game with decks is more than I wanted, but is ultimately ok. I little bummed they couldn’t add on the foot clan miniatures for free. However, I would have probably pulled the trigger on minis for the sidekicks, if I had been able to add just the sidekicks on. However, I don’t want duplicates of the turtles/ Villians, no matter how cool they look. So while I can understand the price point on the minis I wish they had given an option to those that don’t want all the duplicates. I also don’t really care at all about the alternate art cards. They are cool, but I wouldn’t have purchased them, so It feels like there is no real stretch goals.

fishfleas
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I’d hoped I’d see more comments here that were as outraged at the price as I am.

odiedodieuk
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Thanks for making this video! When it first announced on monday I was pretty damn exited and was low-key genuinely thinking about the full deal, but with these kinds of things you definitely have to sleep on it for a while so you ACTUALLY know what you want and what you're buying. All amazing points you made, you've really helped inform my decision. I'll probably just get the $5 backing option so I can still have access to the alt-art cards, while being able to wait for some updates on the dev-team's side

DeadlyVeggie
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Agreed. I'm definitely backing the core game at the extra 2 hero decks. And I might go in for the extra toppings just to have all the really cool extra villain miniatures, (i recognise all the characters and am really suprised they went with wingnut and Leatherhead) but I can't see buying the neoprene mat or the Deluxe components. If for no other reason, then all those 3D miniature foot soldiers are gonna make the board really full and hard to see around.
Edit: yay voice to
Edit 2: don't forget it's gonna be $100 for the 2 witcher boxes soon....

ketami
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15:25 ... so what you are saying is adding hundreds of dollars of toppings might not really make a better pizza? ;) I think also you are hitting on the fact that a lot of the savings has been drained out of Kickstarters lately. Good one Andrew. Thanks mate.

boxbattle
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Im also disappointed because of the huge price difference. Exactly as you said going from 60$ which was the previous full add on adventure to 80$ for the standard is a big price difference for me. What i will do is wait for launch to find it on discount or even buy it used.

pantelispapas
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Thinking about it on a different side, games like Zombicide have exclusives locked behind kickstarters that make it hard to get months/years down the track. What i see here is the game will always be the same gameplay experience, the only difference with kickstarting is it looks different. I like this way.

juzaspex
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The Villain deck for 20 dollars is ridiculous.
They sell licensed sets for 50 for 3 characters plus minis plus board.
60 cards only for 20 bucks crazy.
If they at least had minis for the hero deck I would be happy.
So I'm upset about that

Ryguy
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There are a lot of Kickstarter games going with the $80.00 for some and over $200 for all, I haven’t backed any of them.

AeternusNox.
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In Europe, I’d have to pay $225, - plus $20, - shipping plus 21% VAT for a total of $296, 45. Absolutely outrageous. No way I’m paying that AND not get any cool stretch goals either.

LordVampire
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Bebop and rocksteady should be a dual character😢

lord_of_worms
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One thing you didn’t mention is that the sleeves aren’t even included in the all-in pledge. It doesn’t make sense to have an all-in pledge that’s not all in.

The sleeves are actually something I’m interested in because the initiative deck gets shuffled a lot and my Tales to Amaze cards are getting a little faded.

I guess at the end of the day, I’m having trouble swallowing doubling the price of the main game for purely cosmetic upgrades. I’m not immune to splurging on Kickstarter but that combined with how cheap their last game was is making me hesitate.

sideswipe
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Competitive play with all the heros(and villains if you add their hero decks.) that 6 potentially playable heroes to mix and match with other unmatched sets.
When you then look at prices of miniatures, they are actually pretty good value. I play alot of miniature games and these come in at a very reasonable price.

freakypeachy
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stretch goals are definitely lame. Feel like the extra minis should be a stretch goal. And an extra villain or 2 should be an add on. unfortunately I think they know they can charge these prices because of nostalgia.

Theshowb
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I think it is clear that there is a tone of trying to milk the IP. Lift the base price? A-okay and understandable. But Swapping out the stretch goals for alt card arts so people have to pay for all the bonus sculpts/villian decks/cosmetic upgrades? It’s obvious they put their LEAST liked sellers into stretch goals and their most potentially popular ones into add ons in very stark contrast to their previous campaign (free shipping and rather deluxe Mothman and Martian invader in the base box already).

brandobombchu
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Seems like a lot of the add-ons are more for TMNT fans and not Unmatched fans.

rustedbeetle