🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 European Separatist Movements Ep.9 | Wales

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[joshuawells]

I don't see Welsh Independence occurring before either Scottish Independence or Irish Reunification.

[Dendarang]

Welsh have been the most successful in reviving their language, greater percentage of Welsh people can speak Welsh language than Irish in Ireland or Scottish Gaelic in Scotland.

[jordanmcgrory]

It wasn't a parliament until 2007. The original devolution offer to Wales was much smaller in scale.

[rubiconprime]

My family has planned a trip of the UK I. The summer and when I was checking the route of stops (the trip was planned by a company) I noticed that it mostly follows the island boarders, except for Wales which was just excluded from the map which is a very Wales thing to happen.

[lunkycultist]

The problem with certain independence movements is that some people want to be independent in spite of the country there currently in without having a 'Actual' economic plan afterwards such as scotland
Other places like greenland are doing it smart though by slowly cutting the ties instead of ripping it

[lm]

Here’s my take as a young person (between 18-21) who was born in Wrexham and lived here my entire life:

- My local area, from the city centre to my home, is in an awful state.
- Years upon years of poor planning decisions (some at council level, some at government) and selling off council property to balance budgets has meant the high street only has charity stores, low-budget shops, or empty units.
- There is no major dining scene in Wrexham. You can count on one hand how many independent cafes we have.
- On the outskirts of the town centre are at least 4 retail parks, the largest of which being Eagles Meadow is virtually empty.
- The presence of the retail parks and inappropriate/poorly maintained road infrastructure means there’s a lot of congestion and accidents.
- There is very limited parking after 8am Monday to Saturday, yet the council-worker-only car parks are newly paved and typically half full throughout the day.
- Poverty is predominantly in the centre of the city, with affluent areas being on the outskirts closer towards Chester, Oswestry, and Ruthin.
- I am generalising here, but people living in Wrexham who have the ability to travel outward actively choose to spend their money elsewhere - mainly Chester and Liverpool. A reason Chester is such a wealthy city is due to the influx of shoppers residing in Wales.
- The public transport is actually okay for coverage, though is expensive, uncomfortable and unreliable due to aforementioned congestion. Both the bus and train stations have anti-social behaviour and are eyesores.
- The main college and university are in the city centre, but the students have very little to contribute to (in terms of shops, arts spaces, casual dining) in the city and again spend money elsewhere.
- The Maelor A&E hospital (whilst home to many brilliant staff) is very spread out, poorly designed, and badly maintained. It also covers a huge area (including Powys) so resources are always stretched.
- I personally have access to a good GP service, but GP services across the area are generally limited and poor quality.
- Some people in the area do not take care of their property, whether it be laziness or cultural. That makes the a lot of places visually unappealing both to live and visit.

The reason Wrexham is like this is due to failings in both local and national government. It’s the same reason why it takes over 3 hours to get to Cardiff on a train from Wrexham. It’s the same reason why roads gridlock during tourist season. It’s the same reason why 20mph exists on roads that aren’t safe to be that slow. It’s the same reason why investment in Wales is so low.

Welsh Labour and UK Labour are NOT the same. Welsh Labour is heavily influenced by Plaid Cymru. Plaids extensive investment, tax reduction policies would bankrupt Wales.

[MacTac]

Honestly as a Canadian I really hope to see Britain stay united, I think Scottish, English and Welsh people in a union is the best case scenario for the island rather than 3 separate factions

The rest of the 21st century is going to bring some difficult times and the island is stronger United

[PWNED]

Wales will probably get independence before Scotland. For two reasons 1. They are no where near as valuable to Westminster.

2. To spite us Scots 😂

[hazyhayley]

Tldr would be happy to see Europe divide even further.

[asi]

Wales needs to explore independence, if only because it would mean wall to wall tv news coverage, and daily debates in parliament about "Welsh-it"

[martinstent]

The best way for Wales to achieve independence is that they just stop caring about what happens in Westminster.

[jwil]

Now how about Northern Ireland (the most likely breakaway from the UK)?

[gamelot]

Would be a good way of restoring the Irish Sea trade that was important to ports like Holyhead if independent led to rejoining EU.

[CallumMcDonald]

As a Welshman independence is a idiotic idea deemed to failure and I believe in shutting down the welsh parliament

[RchardH]

It's a ridiculous idea, even if we could fund it independently, as soon as the next major disaster happens, COVID, War, Bad Recession, Natural disaster whatever we would crumble. Small nations need somthing very special to thrive and we don't have that.

[lewys]

Welsh people don't care, independency would just simply piss alot of people off that commute daily to work over the 7 bridge.

Also, the welsh don't pay for nhs prescription items and still have a valid nhs system for dentistry.

[ChrisWar]

Well, butty. Anyone want a sheep? 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[yunleung]

I just shocked how fragmented Europeans seem to be.

[Jack_today]

The thing with a lot of this is independence shouldn’t be needed, the politicians in London just need to go outside stop trying to ‘roast’ each other in parliament and do something about the rest of the country. But if those wankers keep acting like this they will push the country apart

[jongaming]

As a welsh I believe that we should be independent and have more land