what is the loom of fate? + predictions for 4.7 (Genshin Impact lore, theory, and speculation)

I watched the 4.7 livestream and just decided to talk about it. disclaimer: rambling

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00:00 What is the Loom of Fate?
03:21 How to Change Fate 101
06:09 The Sinner & Caribert

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[roozeveltfox]

for clarification: this was made post-4.7 livestream and before the quest was released, so it was pre-4.7 summary and predictions :) [actual 4.7 videos coming soon]

[AnonymousInternetUserLaine]

Sleep is optional, my body has evolved to obtain nutrients from Genshin lore

[mirainelaplace]

oh my goodness. not gonna lie, while you say you are rambling things, but the presentation is well-structured and concise...I don't know how much time did you spend on this but I admire this work. and because of this i got to understand the loom of fate better. thankseuuu TT

[tartagliasjigglydworshipper]

theory about the Traveler. what if the Abyss sibling was so mad at Celestia because it was revealed to them that the Traveler will be chosen as sacrifice for this world.

[berrybread]

let me put forth my tinfoil hat theory:

what if kaeya is a candidate to be the sinner’s vessel?

no evidence only vibes

[mittenvonscrufflears]

It's my theory that the identity of the Sinner is actually Nibelung. This is mainly because of one reason: The Der Ring des Nibelungen, an opera that Khaenri'ah takes a lot of its inspiration from. In this story, the dwarf, Alberich, and Nibelung steals the Rhinegold from the Rhinemaidens and forges a ring of power, and the entire story revolves around the conflict of everyone trying to obtain that ring.
So I believe if we translate this to Genshin, the Alberichs, who stepped in as reagents after Khaenri'ah fell, are working together with Nibelung to complete the loom of fate and take control of Teyvat, so surely the identity of the Sinner must be Nibelung. It would make sense as to why he has that title too, because he collected a lot of forbidden knowledge in the war that caused the world to nearly be destroyed. I think that after using all of that forbidden knowledge but it being cleansed, possibly so wounded he didn't even have a body anymore, he then turned to the powers of the abyss. Centuries later, he "heals" Caribert, possibly taking control over his body or started the process of making Caribert the loom of fate.
Now, we hear in the trailer that the loom of fate is apparently complete, but i don't think that means that they are able to use it yet. Why? Because Kaeya's father told him that the "fate" of Khaenri'ah is in his hands. Now, we haven't gotten any information of Kaeya betraying Mondstat and stealing the thing he was supposed to steal. It's so important, hoyo would have found a way to let us know this information. So I believe that while the loom of fate is completed, it is still missing its power source, which is what Kaeya was sent to find.
it is my theory that the Primordial One lost control, he worked with the Second Who Came to create the Gnoses, and found a way to keep Nibelung's pearl by tricking SWC or by a deal. The Primordial One then takes one of the Gnoses, and becomes the God of Anemo. That's right... the Primordial One is Venti. Hence why Kaeya was sent to Mondstat to find something that will determine Khaenri'ah's fate there. Many other people also have this Primordial Venti theory due to both of them being androgynous in appearance and with wings and a crown, also the fact that Istaroth is with him, but now I'm even more convinced.
I believe that the reason Venti took Nibelung's Pearl with him was so that, while he couldn't make a loom of fate of the same scale as before as he was probably weakened or under some degree of control from the Second Who Came, he was able to use his own power to be the loom of fate for Nibelung's pearl, so that he could make Mondstat free from fate, hence why Venti is the god of freedom, and Mondstat is the nation of freedom.
I believe that the end game of Teyvat is a grand battle over who will obtain Nibelung's pearl and has the means needed to utilize it to wrest control over the fate of the world. And as of right now, Kaeya is in a prime position to take it, if he were so inclined. I delve into this theory deeper in a comment on a different video, so I'll just copy paste it in the replies of my comment if you're interested in reading more.
If anyone sees this, congratulations for making it to the end! I appreciate it, haha. Please let me know your guys' thoughts

[dreamresort]

thanks for the compact recap 🤍 what u said at the end was crazy
bc if the sinner is the 2nd who came but natlan is about resurrecting the 3rd
i feel like that'd give hoyo enough time to play it out until the end of snezhnaya & then start the khaenriah arc with the 2nd who came as the most evil abyss mf there has ever been😭💀

[namanyadav]

Myabe sinner is the third descender celestia used his body the create the genosis but trap his consciousness inside the crystal

[sheevismycity]

Rooz... This is exactly what I needed at this exact second. I just experienced Extreme phisical pain, and a very Emotionally upsetting interaction. But your vids always without fail make my day better.

Some Crack loom of fate speculation is literally what the therapist and doctor prescribed 😅

[alishafabianna]

I’m so so glad you made a video about the Loom of Fate! The whole thing has been confusing me lol. Your takes are always amazing. Thanks for another great watch!!

[gerardoflores]

Here’s something that can tell you about the loom of fate. It is an ancient artifact that can be used only by three beings that are immortal, and it has the power to change anything in the past without altering the future or the present timeline.

[Wolf_Man_Jack]

2:09 I HAVE ZERO MEMORY OF THIS MOB. Upon further inspection it was in spiral abyss and not in the over world….welp…

[Space-lxy]

I remember reading atheory somewhere that said that maybe the reason the sibling became the abyss sibling was because they also got corroded by the sinner

[motemo]

i think some people/groups who try to reweave fate are trying to create an "artificial descender" to do so

so what i mean by artificial? Descenders as far as we know are outlandes(person who came outside Teyvat) that have a will to rival the world.

so artificial would be someone made or created IN Teyvat(and not outside) who has that will to rival the world.



Rhindedottir trying to do it with Primordial human project that also involves Albedo(you already talked about his similarities with Traveler and hell he himself says that they are similar). so she was trying to create an artificial descender.

the loom of fate project i also believe has "artificial descender" theme with Caribert becoming an artifical descender(the being who can rival the world and reweave fate)

Rene trying to become a descender by combining the conscioussness(wills) of people and using the sword e.t.c

and the newest info about Crimson moin dynasty orphanage i also believe involved creating an artificial Descender. people were "reborn" in the flames of the hearth after seeing the terrified eye of the crimson moon, they were basically reborn as artifical descenders, Perinheri was an artificial descender and i believe that Angelica saying that Perinheri is like her who will not suffer from the curse after saying that she is "freedom" means freedom from fate.

that's why i am still following Arlecchino is an artificial descender theory. it's because similar to Perinheri i believe she was reborn after seeing that terrified eye in crimson moon(which she still sees in her dreams), her weapon description and other stuff saying that she is defying fate in some way, her glitching out AND her drip marketing introduction from Pierro line is 1:1 as to how someone would describe a descender-like being.

so yeah i believe all of the above situations are cases of "artificial descender" stuff and the other way we have seen people trying to defy fate without artificial descender project is by using forbidden knowledge or Remus trying to write his own fate by combining the will of the people through Phobos's symphony which still involved Musica Humana taking over Musica Universalis

[minarose]

Honestly if you made hundreds upon hundreds videos about the genshin lore I would watch them all. You break down these complex and hard to understand concepts (my main language isn’t English, after all. It’s hard to understand the lore at times) and make me imagine a great story while I’m cleaning. You explain them so well and suddenly the genshin lore isn’t so bad and boring as it seems at times.

[epicazeroth]

If you hadn't said you consider this scuffed I would not have noticed

[osmial]

I always see the descenders qualities as they're lists of each descenders and that is where narzissenkruez notes were wrong about descenders because if you look at it they all fit the 1 aspect

Protect = primordial one (protected the world for humans)
Destroy = 2nd who came(brought destruction and delusions to the world)
Sustained = 3rd( was used as a tool to sustain the world which was mostly destroyed)
Create = traveler ( who is said to be a sun/monster/human and lastly the one whose will will decide what happens to the world will likely re-create the world which was destroyed by their own blood kin and fools thus the line the fate of the world is theirs to be re-weave)

[Chickennuggets-hl]

I mean we already do technically have a character that fits one of the bills for being a descender and that character is scara with the thing he fits as a descender is the fact he is not registered as a descender

[biaroca]

The first time we heard about something loom of fate-ish was actually is travail! Dain says "Then, the threads of all fate will be yours to re-weave"!! Is also checks with CN!!

[geovanagama]

2:17 it made me remember that machine in bottle land, the one that we needed repair to make the land work again.