109. How Can a Loving God Kill People in the Old Testament?

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The One Minute Apologist answers the question "How Can a Loving God Kill People in the Old Testament?"
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@stregan7 can you please tell me the chapter and verse that states that "God takes innocent children who have no choice straight to Heaven"? thank you.

KyleS.
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Knowing what choices we will make does not equal making the choices for us.
That is a pretty wild leap in logic.

scottsaville
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Believing God kills leads the believer to do likewise, sooner or later, one way or another. Unless he repents from that way. Biblically, we are what we believe : "As he thinks in his heart, so is he" (Proverbs 23 : 7).

andryranivoarizaka
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If there is a God then he is the owner of the life therefore is not in-moral or wrong for him to take the life.

respuestaevangelica
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As to your second "point"

A perfect God recognizes when the right time to be angry is present. There is a right time for everything. It's all about context.

scottsaville
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Let’s see how he spins this. Ok, going to watch now

Horaciojonesjr
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@atheistprophet5760 As you are a seasoned trouble maker or debater, I take it that you have heard the "you take it out of context" line many times. Well, it's because you do take it out of context. You can not cherry pick verses, you have to read around the suspect verse to fully understand what is being said.

The question remains: Are you so sure that an all-loving God wouldn't take a child in this way that you are willing to stake your life on it? What makes you think you know?

stregan
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he said you don't have to be a christian to know right from wrong. It's a natural common ability.

Gupitor
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we are guilty and deserving of his punishment, we have no right to say that God shouldn't have done that but He had all the right to punish us.
they were just suffering the consequences of their own actions even after they were warned of what they could be.
supose you are guilty of murder, your punishment is jail, just because the judge is your father and he loves, doesn't mean he will not pass judgement, you get what you deserve, for he is just.

simplyguiyito
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@yodeboubtripin And by looking forward and doing as God commanded and NOT looking back at the city they show God where their heart is.

Shazam
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@atheistprophet5760 Are you suggesting that it is not immoral to sacrifice other humans?

stregan
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I would if I could. Sadly, I can't fight all the churches in the world that get everything wrong. The Devil would readily admit with much glee that the church is his greatest ally these days.

scottsaville
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@stregan7 so the age of accountability is a human construct and not something the bible writers felt compelled to state unconditionally. this is why i like christians (most of them) so much more than christianity. thank you for your response.

KyleS.
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This kind of apologetics really looks like forced ignorance.

rootsradical
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@yodeboubtripin The Hebrew for “looked back” means more than to glance over one’s shoulder. It means to regard, to consider, to pay attention to. The Scriptures don’t say whether her death was a punishment for valuing her old life so much that she hesitated in obeying, or if it was a simple consequence of her reluctance to leave her life quickly. Either she identified too much with the city—and joined it—or she neglected to fully obey God’s warning and she died.

stregan
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Do you think your kids and ancestors be held responsible and punished for what you've done?

danielbardem
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@atheistprophet5760 1. We can all be taken home whenever He pleases, He is the author of life. I could get hit by a car tomorrow and that would be the Lord taking me home. It's not fair for me to require a long life. He uses all things for His good plan.

2. I love how you use terms like "torture" because it sounds painful. How do you know those innocents experienced pain when they died?

3. So are you against abortion?

stregan
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He didn't kill a man for ejaculating outside of a woman. He killed him for not providing a woman with an heir. Something that she needed for survival in her society. And he wasn't that great of a guy anyways. That's like being upset that someone murdered OJ Simpson for pushing them over the edge of what they were able to tolerate.

scottsaville
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Even more reasons: If a person harbors sin or a grudge, God usually doesn't listen to them. As far as he is concerned, he forgave the whole world for turning against him all day every day, how dare you be mad at any one person for anything, ever?
This is probably the biggest reason of all. It's tough. But it isn't unique to Christianity. Even Taoism, Buddhism, and swaths of other philosophy recognize that when you harbor hatred, the universe itself seems to turn against you.

scottsaville
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So if you had lived in Sodom during that time, you would have been utterly decimated merely for being born a sinner. And a correction: Judgement is not a last resort, it is far from it. God constantly kills, steals, and destroys in the old testament. He kills the first born of Egyptians, he orders the murder of countless children in the conquest of Exodus, and casts many straight to damnation for a single wrong action. This is simply not a last resort.

Ither