UFOs and the Occult: An Orthodox Perspective

Fr. John Valadez of @DeathToTheWorldOriginal and Fr. Peter Heers sit down to discuss UFOs and the Occult.

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[OrthoBroJoe]

As a catechumen in the Holy Orthodox Church one observation I have made and something I truly love about the Orthodox Church is that every priest I have met in person and every priest and monk I’ve watched on YouTube just exudes so much love and kindness it is unreal. I truly feel like all priests and monks are like a true father to me on earth and I pray to God to have just a tiny amount of the love of fellow man and of God that all the Fathers have.

[photinisociety]

Really looking forward to this since I saw the notification yesterday! I was an occult practitioner and believed in different kinds of aliens and ghosts. I will however be baptized into the Church within a few weeks! I’ve left it behind as much as I know.

It will be good to receive the Orthodox perspective on this to “tighten any loose ends” lest I be offending God in regards to this.

Thank you so much.

[Graplernapler]

I actually came to Orthodoxy through the sort of gnostic-theosophic-platonic traditionalism online info movements. It was a good learning experience for me, but ultimately I found the Truth through Orthodoxy that showed me the heretical views I was interested in. Thank you Lord.

[areyoutheregoditsmedave]

i grew up in the punk and metal scene too. its full of people seeking something real and settling for what makes them feel good.

[stevelenores]

I finished The Ladder of Divine Ascent again and made an outline summarizing the steps. That way I can work on those things I'm the weakest.
Those items I'm weak on in no particular order are:
Step eleven - Controlling my tongue.
Step thirteen - Defeatism.
Step 14 - Don't over eat.
Step 21 - Courage.
Step 26 - Knowing myself.

[photinisociety]

Please speak more on that, “demons tied to blood lines” and how that is broken.

[dixonbuttz]

the collab my life needed, God bless both of these wonderful priests and keep them

[SieddMcNeil]

Thank you Fathers for this edifying and fascinating discussion. This information is more important now than at any other time. While it's helpful to us faithful, I imagine it would make a big impact to those outside and looking in.
Glory to God! 🙏☦️

[nickdev]

A protestant here and really appreciate the clear messaging you give. There is so much walk in the weeds on this topic. Have not seen anything else from you so far, but this inspires to see more.
Clear teaching is what people respect.

[nikademos]

Wow, that story about St Peter the Aleut... Glory to God!

[kumikomornigglory]

The web page is so coool!!
Thank you Fathers for this very important issue.
We have to be awake.

[orthodoxphronesis]

16:30 “There is no guarding the senses, there is actually an emphasis on the senses”

Your blessing father!

[Nathan-zwnq]

I’ve witnessed things in my life that I would flatly call demonic. But the demons erred; they sought to turn me away from Christ. But them making themselves known to me only drove me deeper into Christ’s arms.

God bless you all. And never fear them, they are already defeated by Christ Jesus.

[glitchyrhythm]

I have three death to the world shirts and they always get read and asked about ☦️

[juliepet]

All I know is in the beginning it's exciting and interesting but later you realise you opened the door to evil and gave them permission to enter your life and torment Years and years later I'm still struggling.dont get fooled thinking it's innocent. I won't read even horoscopes anymore

[George-urow]

My Father is now retired and spends much of his waking hours reading and watching programs about "UFO's & E.T.'s". I see it as a form of escapism, and also to perhaps deal with a degree of boredom since retiring. He is not a practicing Orthodox Christian (he was baptized as a child, but, was always more of an agnostic, unfortunately).

I have told him my thoughts about this fascination of his, in line essentially with this video but have been dismissed out of pocket, his reply being "I don't want to hear about that". I pray that there is some way to show him about this deception he has fallen under.

Any constructive comments are welcome.

[AJSTITAN]

Father, I am an Amazon delivery driver and I have listened to Matt Walsh daily for news of the world for over two years. Please be assured that his apparent belief in UFOs is a long running joke. Matt has an *extremely* dry sense of humor and he loves playing deadpan. His "belief" in UFOs is an ironic affectation. He definitely does not take this phenomenon seriously and I believe that this joke of his arises from an observation that people are astonishingly credulous on such flimsy evidence. I have never seen any UFO "evidence" that wasn't either a fake or an artifact of imperfect technology. He is mocking UFO believers with an exaggerated enthusiasm and seriousness.

[TheBloodyKnuckle]

Having an Orthodox spiritual father in the US today is very difficult, as there are so few. I would also disagree with the use of the phrase "push you" in the right direction. I think pushing only leads to resistance. Show me the way, lead me on the correct path. Those are unassailable methods that can be rejected, but are true leadership.

[know_not_wickedness]

I think Father Heers forgot to do his punk scene homework. I was expecting more discussion about the nihilism/anarchy/chaos aspect of the punk rock scene in the 80's and 90:s, instead of the more esoteric occult.I really appreciate Father Valdez because I was a punk back in the 90's in Denver and we would grab every zine we could at places like Tower Records when we weren't skating. I had developed the hopelessness of the 80's regarding nuclear war with the USSR and no chance of ever being rich or successful. Thanks to both of you.

[jessecurle]

Shoutout Justin Marler. That first Sleep album is underrated and Death to the World is based.