Who REALLY Stuffed the Kids in the Suits? (FNAF Theory)

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For nearly ten years now, people have debated over whether William or the Puppet stuffed the children in the suits. In this video, I present a somewhat unusual solution to solve this debate.

CREDITS
Freddy, Bonnie, and Foxy renders by Scrappyboi; Chica and Puppet renders by RamChoops; Glitchtrap render by Scrappyboi; models by Steel Wool Studios.
All music is FNAF OST by Leon Riskin (Don't Open the Door, Venta Black, The End of the Tunnel, Caught in a Loop, The Forbidden Nocturne).

00:00 A decade-long debate
01:05 Evidence for PuppetStuff
02:02 Evidence for WillStuff
08:17 WillStuff's biggest hole: Give Gifts, Give Life
10:22 The problem with WillStuff & PuppetStuff
11:15 My solution
12:22 The spirit follows the flesh, and also the pain
15:21 The Puppet's role
17:22 Some objections
21:34 An absolutely 100% flawless theory
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Minor correction: I realize that Freddy Fazbear's was established in 1983, so if Charlie died at Freddy's, she could still have died 2 years before the MCI, not necessarily less than 1.

ImmenseAndrew
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I think that William killed them and stuffed the bodies in the suits and the Puppet “gave them new life” by showing them how to possess the animatronics, while also giving them a chance for revenge and to comfort them after their deaths when nobody was there to comfort her for her death

connorstamps
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Personally, I interpret it as William physically stuffed the corpses, but the Puppet led the spirits to the animatronics

HydraKittten
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i honestly think that give gifts, give life resembles charlie "reminding" mci victims of their bodies' location, just like in alone together, thus making them gain control over animatronics in one way or another

pelkerkes
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I think it’s interesting that it’s just the heads. Maybe it could be representing the children being able to see through the eyes of their animatronics now that they have life. Or that they now possess and are one with that animatronic

joshuavis
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Here's a WillStuff explanation for the Give Life minigame:
The Puppet is trying to reanimate the corpses that are in the animatronic suits, and the ghosts thus possess the animatronics. The kids didn't know they were dead until this happened, and when they found out, the bites started happening, employees and night guards went missing, and put simply, The Puppet kinda fucked up.

CreepyLGuy
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18:18 I’m so sorry, I’m listening to what you’re saying, but what are you even trying to achieve in the background?? It’s making my day

Grim-OlliBall
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9:13 I’d be more inclined to believe that Charlie is there for the crying child, since the party is made in his death’s image, and Cassidy is clearly still around after fnaf 3.

JoesMama-ciyl
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Pretty much summarized my thoughts! I always thought William put the kids’ bodies in the animatronics to hide them, and THEN did the Puppet come to bound their souls, cluelessly trapping them. *Plus* it didn’t help that the bodies weren’t found, thus complicating the kids’ process of moving on, just like Alone Together.

The animatronics’ murderous intent could also come because the security guards had a (possibly) identical uniform from William’s when the murders took place, therefore worsening the situation imo, and maybe some wacky programming/malfunction could’ve lead to the 87 bite in fnaf2 :p

Very awesome script, I love your videos!! Keep up the great work

buggloss
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I actually agree with this theory and that charlie giving life to the kids was a big mistake

alderlopezcastro
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William did the stuffing.
Cahrlie just helped the MCI kids accept their new lives in the animatronics for whatever reason because she wants them to have a chance of payback or that she doesn’t want them to end up like a ghostly-esque hallucination thing like Golden Freddy.
William says that he accept the new life Charlie gave her but that doesn’t mean Charlie stuffed William into the springbonnie suit, no it just means accepting this new life is accepting your current state.

Trontotario
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To my understanding: In the books (fazbear frights or tales of the pizzaplex I don’t recall) it’s revealed that for a soul to ascend or realize it’s dead it needs to discover it’s body on its own or it’s body needs to be discovered by other people. Charlie dies in the back ally a place where people would have eventually found her body but the MCI kids were stuffed into the suits by William a place were no one, not even themselves, would see the bodies. So that’s when Charlie/ the puppet kicks in. I believe Charlie just guided the souls of the kids to their bodies so they could realize what was happening and become “aware”. They decided to not ascend and instead make sure William pays for his crimes. So once he does and he becomes Springtrap they make happiest day and try to convince golden Freddy to ascend along side them. Good theory this is just what I personally believe.



(Note: I just realized that into the pit and the normal MCI are not one to one. Since in the poster of fnaf one it’s said that the kids were lured into the back room and killed one by one throughout the curse of several days and no one saw the actually bodies unlike in into the pit were the spring Bonnie demon thing actively showed the bodies as if it was proud).

Conceptbonnie
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At a certain point you have to just admit that the majority of the games and media do not work well as a single unified continuity. It’s not about blindly calling every weird thing a “retcon”, it’s about acknowledging that Scott was writing the story of these games individually and without a fully developed plan for the entire storyline in the beginning. So a plot point that was written in one way in one game, changes and becomes something else in a later game, just because Scott is making changes to the story to better fit whatever goal he had for that specific game, at that specific time. Rewrites exist and they’re very common, in fact I’d say most of the confusion in the plot lines of these games is just that: people refusing to acknowledge the very obvious rewrites from one game to the next, and instead insisting that there has to be some in-universe explanation for every rewrite and that the entire storyline between all the games combined HAS to fit within a single continuity, when they very obviously don’t.

ll
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Actually a really good theory! This changes my perspective on give life. I feel like this video can also serve as strong evidence to suggest that Cassidy was killed in a springlock failure since the puppet never gave her life and she still somehow possesses Golden Freddy.

ivebenhere
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Simple, after the kids died they did it themselves.

codename_nons
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William wanted Fnaf 2 restaurant closed, so he left the body’s out. also, I’m pretty sure this theory has been common knowledge for awhile.

Paper_
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11:15 I was previously in that "solution" camp for a while as well, until I came up with one of my own.

First, I believe GGGL is a normal arcade game, until the puppet gives the presents, then it turns into what really happened. Similar to 12:06

What if William Stuffed the kids and the kids possessed the suits, but weren't hostile. Their spirits just lingered, running around the pizzeria. Maybe causing drawings to change, lights to flicker, and even the occasional staring animatronic, but nothing massive. 15:15 - 15:24
Not a full possession, but more like that one Frights book with the spirit roaming where they died, until they realise they're dead.

That is until the puppet follows the wondering spirits to the back room in Fnaf 2. And, pulling a carlton/abby, reminds the spirits "THIS IS THE BAD MAN".
The spirits then get mad and (in my mind) their forms change from their normal selves to their Happiest day selves with the masks (puting the heads on the kids in GGGL), showing they're now in control of their animatronics.
This then leads directly into Save Them were, like when they find out in the Movie and TFC, they gun straight for William, trying to get revenge.
However, as we find CANT".

Basically, the kids' spirits DO possess the animatronics, but not to the same extent as Charlie, Baby, or EVEN Golden Freddy, who all died near/in their suits (Golden freddy's spirit.is implied to have been springlocked, hence they follow TSE logic of Possessing the suits their suit on their own. So Charlie doesnt need to help them, which is why Golden Freddy at the end of GGGL).

Then the Puppet finds the wondering spirits, makes them aware they're dead and who killed them, and then they immediately go for William (as they do when this happens in TFC and the movie), however, unlike the other cases...."YOU CANT" and now the spirits are trapped in that state.

I always found it weird that the Carlton/abby role existed, but it was never implied in the games, then I realised the puppet's character could easily play that role. Then they feel guilt for setting them on their endless revenge path.

thedarkdevil
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My theory after the death of the crying child, William kills Charlie’s and Charlie was the first to become possessed after the puppet crawls to her body. The puppet then stuffs the first set of children at the first Freddy’s location (not fredbears diner), which is when William starts to learn about the possession of his murder victims in the suites. He then kills the second set of kids and leaves them in the open to test the puppet to try and learn more about how the possession works. After confirming, he proceeds to make the Funtime animatronics to further learn how to master this ability with the ultimate goal of “I will put you back together”.

voltelecton
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The puppet is unique, its purpose is to protect the kids so it makes sense possession would be different for the puppet

Aromantikat
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19:28 to lead on to this, i think it's because Charlie is almost completely just remnant. I swear there was another line or something that she'd forgiven the incident, wants to put everything behind her, and with how quick or death is I doubt it was particularly painful. She is aware because she lacks the amount of Agony the others have.
Truly making her the opposite of Cassidy, which seems to be an incredible amount of Agony. Both sources are powerful, but the means are different.

Makes me think perhaps the agony has an effect on ego, and that's why the bite victims have some sort of personality, but by the time the funtimes (minus Baby) exist between all the mixing and agony introduced they only have a trait of being aggressive. They're pretty much just agony machines. I'd say Baby is a strong mix of both, the agony all the funtimes recieved + the agony/remnant mix of Elizabeth being added.

Just some brainstorming your theory gave me, I really do like your idea and honestly been leaning that way for a while just hadn't had it so structured before

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