DeWalt's New 20V Ratchet is NOTHING Like Their 12V? vs M12, Kobalt & Craftsman

Is the DCF513 better than the DeWalt 12V Xtreme DCF503? Or at least, just as good as? Some weird stuff going on with this one as we comapre the brand's newest 20V Atomic ratchet vs Milwaukee FUEL M12, Craftsman V20 CMCF930 and Kobalt 24V KRW 124B-03.

Torque of TTC is working in product development for Astro Tools who also make ratchets (air). TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!

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[TorqueTestChannel]

Correction, RPM figures given such as at 8:07 are RPS (revolutions per second). For essentially about 200 RPM vs 160 RPM. We're used to counting frames for RPM on tools in the thousands of rippems in high speed footage!

[PhillyFixed]

The DeWalt results just further support my opinion that between the red M12 line and the yellow Xtreme line, most advanced DIYer's and professionals that only need light-to-medium duty tools could do most tasks with just 12v stuff. Great tests!

[powerg]

For me personally, this category of tools is less about torque and more about size. These power tools are competing against hand rachets. I think even rpm speed means less then size. I bought one of these and never used it until I got the milwaukee with the compact battery. Now I use it everyday because it can fit into 90% of the areas my hand rachet does.

[GuessWho-ucuq]

With all the 20v Dewalt batteries I have, it's not worth switching to the 12v version with slightly better results. As you stated at the end, just looking for tools that support my battery line.

[sendit]

I'm a diesel tech, and I have the Mac Tools Electric ratchet (created with assistance from Dewalt, uses dewalt 12v batteries), and I can honestly say I don't think theres another ratchet on the market that I would choose over it. The head size, length, and ESPECIALLY the trigger style/control are absolutely perfect for the auto industry in my opinion. I have air ratchets with the "flap" style trigger seen on some of the other examples here and they're terrible to use when you're trying to snake around harnesses/lines/etc because the flap of that trigger hooks onto everything.

Obviously everyone's decision will be different based on their preference and what they use it for.. but just a little something for you guys to think on before you pull the trigger (pun intended) on buying one.

[jeremys]

Given the amount of 20 V DeWalt batteries I have, a few seconds in a couple foot pounds isn’t going to sway me to having to buy extra 12 V batteries. That was one of the things I had to consider in the price

[boogalooslav]

THANK YOU TTC FOR YOUR TIME TO SHOW US PEOPLE WHAT IS WHAT.. I honestly bet YouTube takes a good chunk of your life and I personally wanted to say thank you because some of us are not smart enough or rich enough to buy multiple things to figure out which is the cats meow.. You and project farm got my heart

[Ender_Wiggin]

Downside to the 12v is I already have a 20v Dewalt system (slowly migrating from Black and Decker 20v), while I find an impact driver great overall, a ratchet seems better suited for automotive tighter space use.

[sschevelle]

I work in the tools department at Lowe's, and let me tell you this is priceless information! I'm a big fan of the DeWalt 12V sub-compact line. Their mechanical impacts are great too, putting out more power than the base 24V Kobalt impacts!

[downup]

I’ve been off the line now (sadly) for over a decade but when I bought my cordless ratchets, access meant more to me then anything else. I would gladly give up torque if it meant a smaller head and overall tool. I can break things loose manually and then use the cordless ratchet to spin it out but if I can’t fit it where I need it to go then it’s useless. Of course 15 years ago there weren’t very many cordless ratchets on the market anyways so my choices were limited regardless.

[countryracer]

A lot of times when Project Farm does a battery tool test my preferred dewalt brand ranks very good. Not always top but always good enough to keep me loyal. I needed a ratchet however but until recently dewalt had none! I was about to go m18. This test makes my decision for me as I have many 12V dewalt batteries because the small 12v drill is awesome! And I like less cost too lol

[NoahTheFacts]

Fascinating. Although I’ll probably just get the 20V DeWalt because I’m already invested in the 20V batteries.

[MurphyTheBandChild]

I went ahead and bought one of the DeWalt 12v ratchets when they first hit the shelves at my local Lowe's. I figured that the smaller battery footprint would be better in the hand than the 2-ah 20v batteries I have for my compact drill and impact driver. I also don't mind having the 12v cordless screwdriver I bought as well, as that seemed to be the cheapest way to get 2 12v batteries and a charger. It's nice to know that I don't have to feel regret about not waiting for the 20v ratchet.

[mikemorgan]

Speed is king with ratchets. Higher torque is a mixed bag. Mostly bad in my opinion. Anything above about 60 ft lbs is a knuckle buster. I like to finish fasteners off manually. Better feel that way. But that's me doing what I do. Folks who don't work in tight spaces may love the higher torque. Milwaukee just announced high speed extended ratchets. Good stuff! Keep up the great work.

[aaronkowalewski]

I had bought the kobalt before seeing this channel and it's been a great reliable tool. Definitely worth the money. It can he a lil awkward in some positions but it gas surprised me breaking loose some nuts and bolts.

[jamesward]

I've had a Posenpro 3/8" the last 4 weeks. It was €60 off Amazon. Wrench & 2 batteries. I charged the batteries the day it arrived - so far it's still on the first battery on the first charge. Today the battery started whinging for more charge - I have used it daily for work not play & love it. Don't fancy changing it for anything "fancier" as it does everything I ask of it & has yet to even once "annoy" me. It's a brilliant tool IMHO and has now moved into "My Fave tool" category alongside my 1/2" Dewalt impact gun I also use daily.

Just my 2c.

[toyotatundra]

Thank you for testing the Kobalt and Craftsman. I already own the Kobalt XTR and I'm going to buy the blue box store brand. Thanks again. You guys keep saving money.

[bmwfnatic]

I still have the 1st generation brushed M12 ratchet, I don't see myself replacing it with any of these, the tools and battery setups just look huge!

[packinwood]

I use these ratchets on the job daily assembling factory lines. The non-fuel M12 is the best one I've used. It's cheaper, lighter, has decent enough torque, and good battery life. The most importantly thing though is that it actually fits everywhere. The fuels are just too big. This is just my job so YMMV but I found several bolts in one day that I couldn't get on that I could easily with the regular m12.

Also the fuel version ratchets really weird. I think it does that so it won't rip your wrist off, but I didn't like the feel of it. Its like the same thing as the fuel grinder. It will clutch out and stop if it thinks the blade is stuck whereas the non-fuel just runs to the limit of the battery and motor. Pretty sure its a safety feature but its pretty annoying.

[clarkfos]

Great video! I'd like to see how the new Makita 18v XRW01Z model and the old 12volt RW01Z to see how they stack up against each other and the competition.