I Ranked Every Framework By Type Safety

I have been thinking about frameworks too much so I made another diagram. TypeScript and typesafety are important and it's dope seeing so many frameworks consider it.

KEYWORD DUMP: Svelte, SvelteKit, Deno Fresh, Next Fetch, Next App Router, Next 13, tRPC, Remix, Solid Start, React Server Components

S/O Ph4seOne for the awesome edit 🙏

[tdotgg]

I didn't include Nuxt because I didn't have enough context on it to feel like I was doing it justice. They're also fresh out of a huge state of change not too dissimilar to Next App Router. I'll get Daniel C on to talk all about it soon I promise 🙏

[DigitalMonsters]

I don't know anything about any of them apart from their names... I'm not even a developer anymore I swear.

[boian-inavov]

SvelteKit actually removed said collocation last year with their big route update, and to be honest with you, I think it has gotten much better due to it. Things are a lot more organised this way and easy to keep track of.

[ventic]

I feel like colocation is a huge trap. It focuses so much on simplifying the feature implementation that it sacrifices the clear separation of concerns between the server and the client, which is very important and already one of the main pain points for people learning this stuff. Getting it wrong very easily leads to leaking information that should never have been exposed to the client.

[sphex]

How about Nuxt? Is there any reason why it is not in this list? I am thinking about starting my new project in Nuxt, and this would help me to decide :)

[docmars]

Great rundown, thanks for putting this together!

[TheNamesJT]

I like remix, prisma, vercel and planetscale stack

[tthiagolino]

Doesn't solid start also need a generic to have typesafe data fetch with useRouteData like the remix?

[johannesherrnegger]

Have you looked at Zodios? I recently integrated the client part into our system (not full stack) bcs I wanted type safety with an older swagger API. I know they also have a server part and would be interested if it also compares to those other libs/frameworks

[pedroalonsoms]

Hi Theo, have you tried drizzle-orm? It generates type-safe sql with close-to-raw sql queries

[huge_letters]

Noob question - what is codegen? When I do "npx prisma generate" to generate my client which has types defined for my db model - is that an example of codegen?

[shareefhassan]

kinda sad not seeing nuxt in this list

[YTCrazytieguy]

I feel like people forget vue a lot (including me)

[mgmitko]

Happy to see Fresh made it in your list, I just started exploring deno as an viable alternative for my next project

[Louisianish]

When you say Remix has recently discovered type safety, I just imagine the devs working on it in January of 2023 being like, "OMG, have y’all heard of this new thing called type safety?! It’s incredible!" 😂

[MuhammadTajammulZia]

Does anybody know which drawing tools Theo uses?

[jonathangamble]

SvelteKit and Qwik City both have form actions, which you need to look into, not needing trpc.

[olafschermann]

Oh man! I am in the software development business and struggle following your content in this vid. There are so many frameworks and technologies popping up i can’t keep up even getting the names. Far from spending time with all those. Not to mention those 100 products from all the big players…

[MichaelScharf]

I am using Meteor plus mobx since 7-8 years. Very stable and easy to use

[drewhjava]

If these are full stack, then what the heck are Rails, Laravel and Phoenix.