NEWS! | Trophy Rework! + The Coin Shortage!

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Brawl News! Incoming rework to Trophies! Addressing coins | KairosTime
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In this video, I talk about all of the important news that we gathered from the Time to Explain podcast that the Brawl Stars developers recently published! You'll still want to watch the podcast, but this is all of the incoming updates & hot topics that they addressed!

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What do you want MOST in the next update?!

KairosGaming
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13:40 it’s not a coin shortage it’s inflation. If the max level was still power 9 nobody would be comparing but going from 9->10->11 is way too expensive. Not to mention that a hyper charge, something required to be competitive, is 5000 coins. Legendary Starr drops give you 2000 max.

gwj
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14:05 coin shortage is real
5k coins for 1hc
2k coins for 1sp
1k coins for 1gdt
2k-2.5k coins for 2gears
So total 10k+ coins for 1 brawler to reach power maximum potential accessible
Don't forget power 10 to power 11 take 2.8k coin
So from 10 no equipment to power 11 all equipment I would take 13k coins for ONE BRAWLER
there's more than 80 of them💀
Since many of you are commenting I present you the full math
7765 to upgrade a brawler from power 1 to 11
And adding the above calculation it's around 18k coins per brawler (if the brawler doesn't have anything higher than super rare gear)
It's 19k for brawlers with mythic gear💀
(It take 3740 pp to max a brawler)

Kushkami
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the coin shortage is not neccesarily because we get less coins then before. It is because the amount of coins needed to max out a brawler is much higher than it used to be. The increase in coins is equal to the increase of price.

mahirbera
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The reason there is a coin shortage is not because of how much coins they give away, it’s because of how much everything costs. Players have to spend their coins immediately because then their brawlers are under leveled which puts them at a major disadvantage

albertfingernoodle
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16:50 Not a single player who has all their brawlers unlocked has ever said that they want more credits to "boost their fame". Fame has been the most useless "reward" for people who have all their brawlers. It literally adds NOTHING to the progress of our accounts as we might have all the beawlers but 1/3 of them are not even level 7!!! Useless fame, it pisses us more when on legendary drops is even a result to get 500 credits—hypercharges are expensive and yes there IS a coin shortage.

WarchiefJaegar
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13:42 cap. just because they’re giving away more coins, doesn’t mean there still isn’t a shortage

jmsii
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I definitely do not get 1200 coins per day on average. I get like 300 with ocasional 1k from the pass

dawidjanik
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This is a really flawed resposne to the coin shortage and I wish Supercell and you had done more research. There's a huge amount of emperical evidence that players DO NOT have enough coins. Are we complaining? Yes, but these complaints are valid and have been for years. People have tens of thousands of power points and no coins and you guys just find that as us just being "complainers." That's really dismissive.

The probem with using mean data is that it takes into account people paying and free to play players and the people who spend money highly skew the data. In addition, it completely disregards playtime, as those who are grinding masteries hours a day will obviously earn more coins than those who play a couple matches for their quick daily starr drops. Coins shouldn't be a grind to get that requires us to play a long time daily when we have other priorities.

I've been free to play and been playing since global launch with hiatuses in between. I have always use my gems efficiently, listening to your advice, buying XP boosters and tickets when they were crazy value, buying the brawl passes with gems whenever available, buying hypercharges. Where has that gotten me? 45 power 9 brawlers, 15 maxed out brawlers, 20 below power 9, and the rest still locked. And I'm expected to always have a lineup of power 11 meta brawlers in order to play Ranked at an enjoyable level. Most of the ones I have are outclassed and shadowcrept. I can't even play most of the new brawlers because they're stuck at power 1-5 since upgrading them beyond 5 becomes too expensive. Every match I'm going in low trophies, I get completely beaten because they're double my power level.

Plenty of people have already worked out the math so it'd be redundant to do the same. Are we getting more coins? According to the math, yes? But seriously, how is anyone supposed to keep up with 6 hypercharges and 2 new brawlers every single season? That's like saying, yeah we have access to clean water more than ever before nowadays, so there's no water shortage and casually not look at how much our population and needs and uses of water have grown.

There is a coin shortage. Supercell needs to get their head out of the ground.

Edit: Thanks everyone for leaving your thoughts below and replying. Thanks to those who I was able to engage in discourse with. My notifications completely blew up and given how busy my schedule is, I won’t be replying to anymore people to clarify my thoughts. I think I’ve done plenty of writing and argumentation so you can just refer to that, but I’ll also let other people respond to your points. Thank you to the people who left nice comments, thank you to the people who offered valid criticisms. We all have different experiences. There’s a lot of new and old players here, so please be respectful and understanding :)

justha
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14:30 aint no way I’m getting 1200 coins per day wtf is that lie

Austinho
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Plans for the near future:
• push as much trophies as possible
• save as much resources as possible
• watch Brawl Talk
• be disappointed
• continue to play and complain as usual

Artemius
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10:05 This isn’t true in most cases. Consider Kenji, for example. Me, a non-brawl pass+ player with every brawler unlocked, can only store 1000 credits max in the brawl pass. Kenji costs 3800 credits, so I wouldn’t be able to get him ‘immediately’

sammiecakie
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9:42 “without adding power 12, power 13” this feels like a jab at the CR Dev team where they just added level 14 & 15 to monetize the game better

nblop
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I can't believe Kairos really fell for the "coin shortage fallacy".

Yeah, maybe it's true that we are getting more coins. Hell, maybe even x2 or x3 times more coins, but if everything ups its prices 8 fold to max out a brawler, maybe it's not an absolute coin shortage, but a relative coin shortage. I need 25k coins to upgrade the rest of my brawlers to max (only hypercharges) and I have 33k powerpoints. A way SC could fix this is being able to buy random hypercharges for a lesser coin price.

MarshallLeeFlames
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It's not that there is a coin shortage, it's more of a coin inflation.

genericuser-ytmu
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18:30 Or just make powerpoints able to be converted to coins either by the usual conversion (1 powerpoint=2 coins) or just a one on one conversion

methane
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Back when boxes existed, coins were never really an issue. Every opening gave us a balance of power points and coins, making progression feel smooth. However, everything changed with the introduction of star drops. Now, we only get one item per drop, and the chances of receiving gadgets or star powers have become rare. This has forced players to spend coins to acquire these items, and with the addition of expensive gears, it’s made things even worse. Gears alone cost around 2, 000-3, 000 coins, and gadgets about 1, 000. In total, you’d have to spend around 4, 500 coins, excluding the cost of upgrading brawlers. This has made coins scarce, while power points have become less useful, as they’re mostly only needed for leveling up brawlers. The system feels far less balanced now.

saravanapandian
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21:45 what if they rewarded the winner of map maker with coins or a legendary starr drop? They would need to change how voting for a map based on friends work somehow but if they could find a fair way to implement some sort of reward for it then I could see alot more people being open to creating maps.

wkususthegoose
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13:40
Coin Problem Simplified.
The real problem is not a coin shortage. It is the demand for coins. This is because hypercharges, gadgets, and star powers increase the demand for coins which makes it feel like a shortage.
I hope this helps
EDIT- I also forgot to include gears. That's an extra 6-10k coins.
EDIT 2 -
BREAKDOWN OF COINS.
(LONG RANT. SRRY)
It cost 7765 coins to get from Power level 1 to 11. With the addition of gadgets that comes to 9765. Adding star powers and hypercharge makes it 18765 coins not even with gears. Including gears makes it either 24765 to 28765 per brawler. There are 84 brawlers currently as of September 29th (Kenji is still not released).
For this example I will use the lower cost of 24765 coins. To max an account, it will take
2, 080, 260 coins.
IMPORTANT(Does not include mythic gears which are 2000 each)
Keep in mind there are 1 or 2 brawlers added every month which is 25k or 50k extra gold needed.

EDIT 3- 200 likes? Wow.
Also, it is basically impossible to max an account with the ratio of gold needed to gold received

Sorry for the rant :) ❤️

NeonBeansII
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Yeah coin shortage is real, the time we collect coin to max out 1 brawler and by the time brawl talk drop and guess what 2 new brawlers in the game, the pace of maxing the brawler is way way slower than the addition of new brawlers and stuff, there's lot of inflation in the game, yeah kairos and the developed says they are giving away more coins like 15 free coins in the shop, what should I do with those 15 coins buy hypercharge, anyways let's take example of clash of clans the devi of coc had already mentioned an 18 months gap between new town hall release so the players are able to max out or get decent progression bit brawl stars is a fast paced game we keep on getting new brawler every now and then but we aren't getting enough resources and time to max things out or to progress decently in competitive meta

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