VET REACTS - WHY DOCTORS ARE QUITTING

#veterinarian #doctor #doctorquit #quitmyjob

Recently @DrCellini published a video talking about some of the reasons why doctors and nurses are quitting the field. A lot of what he said applies to veterinary medicine as well, so I thought I would make a reaction video and go through some data on vets and vet techs. Well, that and make fun of him. Hope you enjoy!

Also I want to link the AVMA report on the profession but its hidden behind a paywall which is really annoying. If you really want it that bad I'll figure something out.

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[dcndiamonds]

To me the biggest different between us (vets) and the human docs, is finances. The extreme heartbreak of knowing I can save a life, treat a disease, or ease suffering, but I can’t do a thing because the owner can’t afford it, is overwhelming. And then to be told, “if you really loved animals you would do it for free” and that I’m money hungry, when I’m struggling to pay my own bills because our salary is so shitty. Human doctors don’t have to deal with this to anywhere near the degree that we do thanks to insurance. I would love to see a poll on how many current vets would go to get school if they could go back and do it all over again. I love what I do but there’s no way in hell I would do it again.
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[Michelle]

This video was so shady it was hilarious while also being so on point haha

[Shentel]

I died at the IG post reel with Michael at the ski resort while he went on about burnout….☠️

[DrCellini]

Guy acts like he never goes on vacation 🤣

[jenniferhartman]

The fact that physicians and nurses are constantly saying they are not paid enough, while making so much more than the veterinary counterparts makes me feel like we will never make enough money to control our burnout. (RVT)

[ashleymcgilly]

As a vet, I could not agree more with all your points. When I read the AVMA study on why we are so busy with the conclusion that I'm not being productive enough, I wanted to scream. I'm an associate at a GP practice with five other vets. We are down to 2 RVTs and 8 assistants. I am fully booked every 20 min with regular cases (wellness and every type of sick/trauma there is) as well as drop off and work in appointments. How is this not busier? I also feel like I'm reinventing the wheel and MacGyvering care since many many drugs or supplies are on backorder due to the Pandemic. Fucking canned prescription dog and cat food is like gold. I hate having to send people away. We have restricted the amount of new clients because we barely have time for the 12, 000 we do have. It's insane. I graduated in 2003 and it has definitely changed. For the AVMA to say work harder....wtf. I get yelled at on the daily for not returning client phone calls within the hour or squeezing more in. I'm not Hermione Granger with a time turner., Ok? I have wanted to be a vet since I was 5 years old and I still love the actual work. But the last two years have been hell.

[stphni]

I'm a second year veterinary student right now who wants to get board certified in Diagnostic Imaging so the shade in this video is even more hilarious to me 🤣 I can't wait to come back to this video in 6-7 years when I become boarded to see how my perspective has changed. Great information though!

[MRDF]

The Instagram scroll at the end was gold 😂

[dandefoe]

The Cellini bros are great. I have thought about it and believe that Vets have harder challenges in their day to day work. Vets are the only helping professionals who sometimes end the life of their patient. They must bear the burden of that trauma. That, coupled with capacity challenges, staffing shortages, increasing pay shrinkage, and mounting student debt makes me more appreciative of those who become veterinarians and stay in the field. My canine goes to a local branch of a national practice. The docs and staff are so kind, attentive, caring, and friendly. I appreciate them, and you DVMCellini. Thanks!

[ahmadshafiq]

Definitely watching and liking to this reaction video rather than the original video #TeamVet

On serious note, managing difficult, "Google Vet " clients made me question. Why am I still just to suffer.

[rebecanieves]

I love your sense of humor! And the fact that when you do reaction videos, you watch and react the entire video!!

[yarnmaniacs]

Love it! Good editing, good lighting!! Totally random but I’ve never heard anyone pronounce the word LITERALLY like you and your brother…lol

[jodymichelle]

I think the crazy case loads at the Veterinary facilities are due to several factors; people staying at home during the pandemic with less outside factors to focus on and more free time in their homes also left them to concentrate more on their pets and notice lameness, hindlimb weakness, dental disease and to beat the monotony giving dogs foods that cause GI upset, partaking in activities that increase risk of injuries (fractures, HBC, attacked by other dog, soft tissue injuries), finding masses and the list goes on. The shelters in my area did have significantly less animals available for adoption so either people are keeping their pets when they may otherwise have not and/or there was a higher adoption rate. People were not going out and spending money at businesses, traveling and taken vacations as much as they previously would have along with good old-fashioned Vet staff shortages. The problem with human medicine in when you pay $120 for an injection of heparin there is less money available to pay staff wages. In veterinary medicine the average experienced technician is responsible for phlebotomy, radiology tech, anesthesiologist, ICU nurse as well as discussing costs and client communication and is some cases ordering of supplies and maintenance of equipment. Average human medicine phlebotomist gets $14-17$/hr, icu nurse (lowest was NC) $33/hr, radiology tech (lowest) $52, 000/yr, we’re not even going to touch anesthesiologist. While I am aware that a human life will always carry more value than an animals, this is ridiculous. Employee retention will almost always come down to salary (people like to be able to pay the bills and to hopefully be able to enjoy some activities), liking the job (chances to learn and room to advance) and employer/employee relationship (mutual respect and appreciation). People that go into the vet medicine field, especially support staff, the are aware they will never be rich however they do need to make a living. Not being able to pay basic bills, take a weekend trip, pay for your kids extracurricular activities, etc is like carrying a tire around with you. The longer you carry it the heavier it’s gets, it’s always present to some degree, it’s exhausting (mentally, emotionally and physically) and it takes some of the joy out of life. Being burned out in your personal life will absolutely carry over into your professional life, and vice versa, and then there goes another great employee. The problem is how do we fix it. I think human medicine has far more leeway in their ability to improve the problems they face but they will likely need to make it a nationwide effort to create changes). Veterinary medicine will have a more difficult time. We do not have money wasted on CEO’s and boarda of directors, political fu**ery, health insurance, frivolous lawsuits and settling out of court, spending thousands to recruit staff. Money is leaner all the way around in veterinary medicine (less so in chain facilities like Banfield, VCA and blue pearl) so if you’re going to increase he cost of staffing where do you cut spending? I absolutely applaud all the people in the human medicine field dealing with Covid. While we have had to deal with clients that are disgruntled because they cannot come into the building with their pet and as Jenny D pointed out it is very difficult to have a patient that is treatable but being unable to because the owner cannot afford it, I cannot imaging working in the human field and worrying about bringing a life threatening virus home to my loved ones, becoming attached to a patients that doesn’t make it, staying with a dying patient because family members aren’t allowed and treating people that don’t believe Covid is real or didn’t get vaccinated because they didn’t want to become magnetized or be able to be tracked. I hope the medicine field in general gets a break soon.

[andreakirkpatrick]

the plot twist with the student loans🤣

[annatietjens]

Scrolling through the vacation pics. I’m dead. Savage man

[louisacrisp]

Dr Cellini the 3rd should be a car mechanic. My mechanic dad loves nothing more than diagnosing and operating on engines, it would be a worthwhile comparison video!

[gmiernik]

Don’t forget. Med students specialize into a specialty. Surgery, emergency, cardiology, neurology. …. As a vet you become all in one. A vet has to be the dentist the optician the neurologist the cardiologist the foot doctor the tail doctor the dermatologist

[mariabeatrizlopezperalta]

Correct me if I am wrong; I would say one difficulty for veterinarians in developing countries is the difficulty for pet owners to afford treatment. More often than not, pets get abandoned, or owners opted to euthanize a pet with a perfectly treatable disease because of the cost of the treatment. This takes a heavy toll on us veterinarians who need to witness all of it daily. So, you start to ask yourself why you studied so many years to just become a butcher. In a sense that we can see and feel empathy for this poor animals and you feel the need to save all of them, bit is impossible because it will eventually impact your life, as you also need to afford a place to live and food to eat. I think that would be one of the reasons why I moved on to research instead. And secondly, being a woman in a developing country working in the country side, leaves you in a difficult spot, as men (Patriarchal system, which we are accostumed to, hopefully it will change someday) in that third world country are against it and more often than not won't respect or listen to any suggestions, and would refuse to seek any medical attention for their farm animals if it is not from a male Veterinarian.

[stevehofmaster]

Great video and some very good points here Doctor Cellini!

[rileystein]

I've been an unlicensed vet tech for 10 years. The highest I've made is $21/hr and my last tax filing said i made $36k last year. I live in Hawaii, so it's really a struggle. If i hear someone in human med say they don't make enough, i might have an aneurysm. 🤯