UFOs and UAP: Can We Penetrate the Paradoxes? with Keith Thompson

Keith Thompson, an independent journalist, is author of Angels and Aliens. His newest book is The UFO Paradox: The Celestial and Symbolic World of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. He has been investigating UFO related phenomena for many decades, having introduced the Harvard psychiatrist, John Mack, to the phenomena of abductions.

Here he reviews the evidence that the materialist paradigm is insufficient for understanding the many anomalies associated with UFOs.

00:00 Introduction
02:57 The inadequacy of materialism
11:28 Everyday magic
16:43 Return of the repressed
23:09 Alternative worldviews
26:19 Recent events
30:17 Abductions
36:02 Who are we?
44:10 The Pascagoula case
52:22 Conclusion

Edited subtitles for this video are available in English, French, German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Russian, Polish, and Swedish.

New Thinking Allowed host, Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD, is author of The Roots of Consciousness, Psi Development Systems, and The PK Man. Between 1986 and 2002 he hosted and co-produced the original Thinking Allowed public television series. He is the recipient of the only doctoral diploma in "parapsychology" ever awarded by an accredited university (University of California, Berkeley, 1980). He is also the Grand Prize winner of the 2021 Bigelow Institute essay competition regarding the best evidence for survival of human consciousness after permanent bodily death.

(Recorded on July 13, 2024)

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[dancestudent]

Thank you for this Jeffrey and Keith. This is such a great interview. Two wise planetary elders, each with many years of experience in exploring consciousness, continuing to support humanity in taking our next great leap forward.

[daf]

What a lovely conversation! Two of our elders in this broader field having a brilliant cup of tea.

[tyanite]

Fascinating. More, please. Like at 22:00, I had a minor experience of "The Zone" like pro athletes do. I was drumming in a highly technical band. On stage you can't hear the speakers out in front of you. Only the audience hears them. Special speakers are set up, monitors, that allow the musicians to hear what's going on. The monitor faces you. My monitor went out for most of an intense show. Our backstage crew was occupied, so no one was around for me to call over for assistance. I had to visually keep track of what each musician was doing, watching their fingers, the singer's lips, and everyone's body movements. They faced away from me and toward the crowd, so I had very little information to go on. I looked for cues in the crowd, too. I had to track each and every band member while playing my own instrument, setting the pace for it all and anticipating the next change and the next. At one point, time slowed. I could somehow "hear" everyone. I didn't have to think of what I was doing. It was all automatic. I had a wide perspective like sitting in the rafters. It all just flowed. That was an incredibly interesting experience. Only once did that kind of flow happen. People in the audience said it was one of the best performances they ever heard, so tight and precise. I don't know how we did it.

[wadew]

Wow, what a great conversation and interview. I'm sorry you have not had an exchange of thoughts on the channel for so long, but hope you'll have Keith on again soon. He's a joy to listen to and very insightful and intelligent. Thanks as always Jeffrey and by the way I took your advice and asked Robert Bigelow foundation if I could get the essays in the five volumes and got them! My best, Wade

[WhirlpoolFarmer]

Yes, siddhis should be "lived in" and not cast aside as if they were merely gaudy signposts that pointed to something else. I always enjoy hearing contemporary thinkers actually question some of these ancient notions that keep getting handed down as inviolate truths. We live in busy times, so if someone wishes to bilocate in order to keep up appearances, I say power to them. And if some wishes to telepathically text message me, that's cool too. Coz I'm forever forgetting to recharge my phone. I do however draw the line at levitation. Mainly because three of the rooms in my house are now equipped with ceiling fans.

[bennguyen]

Two excellent, well-read, communicators discussing consciousness!!

Regarding the 6m mark, I tend to share Jeffrey's viewpoint that until we accept that there exists paranormal phenomena, we can't begin to make headway into the consciousness mystery. Interestingly, I think it's becoming more mainstream to believe that UFO and PSY phenomena are not separate, but rather inextricably linked!

[EvelineNow]

I enjoyed every moment of the conversation.

[sarahswetlik]

Embrace the anatomies!
😅
What a fascinating gentleman.
I agree with everything he says😂 Another brilliant interview, Mr. Jeffrey. 🥰✌️💜💫

[goodshepard]

Marvelous episode. I enjoyed the interview so much. Thank you.

[theoversouls]

Excellent interview! I started reading Keith's latest book and he is an excellent, engaging writer. Some authors have interesting ideas, stories, theories, etc. but are not that great at actually writing a book about it. Jeffrey - you're the best!!

[celt]

Thanks for another fascinating interview. I love the 'bobber' analogy; it resonates with regards to our restricted understanding of consciousness.

[chrisallard]

Fantastic - especially interesting after watching the first (which indeed still seems cutting edge now) - many thanks

[elizabethohalloran]

Thank you Dr. Mishlove and Keith…great conversation! Regarding your comment at the end…Almost daily, I see evidence of the divine feminine energy rising in the political arena and it fuels my optimism!🙏💙

[YahairaMedium]

great excellent thinking discussion and awareness, thank you!

[DanielBarber-moen]

Yes, as he said, " something happened that was not ordinary", it stays with you for ever that, same for me when i experience an amazing, very speedy luminous orb !

[janetworrell]

My husband who is a very good golfer at the age of 73 would agree with you about feeling mystic energy while he’s playing golf.
He is very psychic, but he would never admit to it. And example would be him calling his sister last night just as she’s coming home from the surgery. Which he didn’t know anything about he just had a feeling he needed a call her. ❤

[manuelalayo]

Great interview. I did listen to it while doing the Camino de Santiago!!!

[TenaciousDmitchell]

Thank you, Keith and Jeff. I read both of the books mentioned you guys, and I still consider myself a beginner in this field of the unknown.😊

[astraluna]

I live with ETs and fairies they are not evil. I have videos on my channel that I film and I see these entities everyday. And it’s been nothing but helpful. Your vibe attracts your tribe. This is not a war on good versus evil. It’s a battle against ignorance and truth.