280: Xfce's Next Release, umu for Proton, E-Ink Tablet, Mozilla Drama & more Linux news

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### Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:48 Xfce 4.20 Expected in December
02:53 umu Launcher for Proton Released
06:32 Manjaro 24.1 Released
08:04 New Cinnamon Theme Previews from Linux Mint
11:51 Linux App Summit 2024
13:08 Firefox 131 & Mozilla Drama
16:06 PineNote: Pine64’s Linux-Powered E-Ink Tablet
19:09 Support the show

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Links:
- Xfce 4.20 Expected in December
- umu Launcher for Proton Released
- Manjaro 24.1 Released
- New Cinnamon Theme Previews from Linux Mint
- Linux App Summit 2024
- Firefox 131 & Mozilla Drama
- PineNote: Pine64’s Linux-Powered E-Ink Tablet
- Support the show

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This week's news I'm most excited for is the XFCE update. In it's current version, it is already one of the most underrated DEs out there.

Hinipe
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XFCE + Wayland is going to cause some serious shakedown in the Linux world.
For those who know Xfce, its no joke. Its basically like Ash from the Evil Dead franchise.

pamus
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I see Cinnamon wants to look like Gnome now.

Your_Degenerate
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Re: Cinnamon new force quit dialog: one problem with such an implementation is - GNOME apps (i.e. CSD apps). To show a "force quit dialog", the window manager needs to understand that you are trying to close the app, and if the wm/compositor doesn't control the close button, it doesn't have a good way to identify that. The way this is implemented in Plasma is that once a CSD app stops responding to input events (delivered by the compositor), the compositor starts to capture clicks on an predetermined area at the top right of the window (i don't remember if they draw a new close button there, I'll check later) and if it detects a click again - it will show the "force quit" dialog. The result is that if a CSD app freezes, you need multiple clicks on the close button, over a period of several seconds, to get the dialog, and thats annoying. Add that to the long list of reasons why CSD is bad.

guss
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Greetings from Brazil! So good watch you every week. I really like linux.

desvendandoornasaude
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XFCE would be the perfect fit for Debian by default.

thingsiplay
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been making extensive use of umu protonfixes for star citizen, very handy to have something that rechecks everything every time a game starts

mactan_sc
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Umu sounds like a game changer for playing humble bundle games on lower spec devices

florianfelix
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The mint changes to style are very GNOME 47 LibAdwaita, styling including the change to notification boxes.

DJgregBrown
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:O it's nice to see progress on the pinenote, specially considering that my favorite epaper tablet maker (onyx) is a gpl violator xD

grillo_delmal
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You could have always run the applications trough Steam by adding it as a non-Steam game in your library.

ng
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4:31 - Steam: Game -> Add Non-Steam game
Just so you would know that this feature exists ;-)
Still a very good idea to make Proton be used wherever we want to!

igorthelight
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Cool news this week! I'm a GNOME user, but XFCE was my first DE while messing around with my Raspberry Pi before fully switching to Linux, so I have a very soft spot for it. As for the Mozilla stuff... I love Firefox, but Mozilla's management is a dumpster file, they realistically have only one job: not be Google! ...and yet, they keep missing the mark, I don't even know how

altrogeruvah
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I use Manjaro XFCE since 2018 in a VM and yesterday I updated it to Linux 6.11.0.6.

bertnijhof
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I'm confused, I smashed the like button. However, I can't find the smash button.

scooter
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With CachyOS Proton and Heroic... you can select Proton-CachyOS over wine out of the box. Works like a charm... might even be slicker then Steam itself.

chaddesrosiers
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if xfce uses semantic versioning, it makes sense to stay at 4.x to remain consistent on the part of major numbers only on breaking changes

Wilker_uwu
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I hate modern themes, I hope there's a way to keep the old one. Rounded corners can eat it.

GIRGHGH
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XFCE needs
1. a more eye pleasing default theme
2. wayland support
3. It has all the apps for individual settings (network, display etc) why not create a single pane that will have those apps to be opened from there to make life easier I never understood. They don't have to be integrated like KDE/Gnome in that central pane, just to have them there so you can easily find what you look for

Is Mint/Cinammon wants to look like gnome?

JohnNo
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Ooh excited for both xfce and cinnamon. Been using Cinnamon forever when I use a de...i also like xfce and kda but just usually want to save space💀 gotta fix that lol

comosaycomosah