The future of Virtual Reality with Hugo Barra

This week, Marques and David talk with Hugo Barra about his blog post where he makes a number of points and observations about the Apple Vision Pro and the state of VR in general. There's a lot to get into! Enjoy!

Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:20 Hugo Barra Chat
06:39 Why the Apple Vision Pro is so Important
16:18 Hugo's Hot Takes
20:38 Shopify (Sponsored)
21:48 Netsuite (Sponsored)
22:52 The Best Thing to Happen to Meta
29:29 Was the External Battery Intentional?
36:55 Full Immersion in VR
46:41 Gigabyte (Sponsored)
48:56 Apple's Marketing of the Apple Vision Pro
01:05:44 A Race to Z with Hugo Barra
01:08:58 Outro

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[Waveform]

FYI for those wondering, we pre-recorded this episode because Adam is on a much-deserved vacation this week 🏝 Hope you enjoy! Hugo is a massive wealth of knowledge. Regularly scheduled news programming will be back next week 🫡

[hilowize]

I like that Hugo referenced previous waveform episodes. Not sure if he’s a regular viewer or just good at doing interview prep, but either way it made for a really good conversation. Normally I’m not a big fan of guests on the podcast, but he really rocked it

[Blawqe]

Shout out to the editor who made distortion when Hugo was explaining it at 18:24

[vagabanda]

We all had headphone wires, running under our shirts, like 5 years ago. All of the sudden we have no idea how to handle a wire

[favourphronesis]

This episode made me realize that while I like guests as bonus episodes, I love the pure crazy madness of the original crew.

[vojtechpolakk]

What an amazing episode! Hugo's perspective on many things has been great to listen to, and maan, his reactions were often so pure! When Adam played the air horn sound effect, when the guys were talking about David playing Dota for a hot second or when Marques noticed the "very unclear" pun... You can see how passionate for the whole subject Hugo is and it's great. Thanks to the whole WVFRM team for this!

[jwramp]

I’ve watched the last two f1 grand prixes in AVP on the Vroom app. It’s not years away, it works perfectly now with as many streams as I want, completely live. Main feed, data screens, a couple driver feeds with their radio feeds, the 3D track illustration. It’s so good.

[theOnlyMaleReneInNigeria]

I almost thought today wasn't Friday

[eveninacrowdedroom]

Andrew isn't here coz he's busy listening to Taylor Swift's new album me thinks

[Tarik]

I love this guy. Ben following him since I/O 2011. Never seen anyone like him

[snibbubzik]

Love the more in depth talk about the VR industry as whole. Super interesting interview!

[bashbifaananyi]

43:53 the F1 experience would be wild..imagine having an experience from Lewis's helmet camera

[AndroidDigest]

I'm confused. Quest ALREADY does live sports. It already does courtside nba games. And when they release a higher end headset they will already have Apple beat with courtside sports

[Target]

He was such a cool guy :) I like how clear it was that he was a huge fan of you guys. Kept referencing past videos and podcasts, like he personally knew you all. Lol

[Violant]

took me a while to realize hugo is brazilian, his english is impeccable but his name is very local so i google it and confirmed haha, good to know we have a fellow brazilian mind leading in the tech space

[Kwotzi]

This was such an incredibly interesting interview! Was glued to it the whole time.

[OLBastholm]

I haven't clicked anything this fast in a long time. Hugo Barra is a fucking legend!

[shiverpoolcody]

I really liked this episode. Especially how competitive Hugo was with the typing at the end.

[ProgrammedAttempts]

Who edited the podcast and added those pixel effects at 18:20? Good job

[erikmcgregor]

I think David has a good point about Full Immersion VR re: courtside experiences. The novelty will be good at first, but the reality is that the curated viewing you get currently, gives you a much better idea of whats going on in the game, and people will prefer the classic experience long term.