The Rise & Fall Of The Boeing 767

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The 767 has been an important aircraft for Boeing. Starting out in the early 1980s, it opened up transatlantic routes to twin-engines – a major development at the time. While it is not the best-selling widebody (the 777 takes that), it has had a long life, moving through several variants. More efficient aircraft have now taken over, but it remains in production and popular for cargo and logistics use.

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There's no better config in economy on a 2 aisle aircraft than the 2-3-2 on the 767. I'm glad I still have the chance to fly the 767 as I'm based out of Detroit which is a Delta Hub.

mpsangha
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This is still one of my favorite planes ever. It revolutionized USA to Europe flights as commonplace with efficient and reliable service. Delta grew its entire European and Indian service on this plane, I think at one point they had over 100 767-300ER's which is insane. Also been a great plane and said to see it starting to fade out but the 787 is a great replacement!

ekuche
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The 767 is the biggest plane I’ve been on. I really like the 767. It’s one of my favorite planes.

MDE
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A fellow avgeek highlighted this to me. It’s really impressive how the 767 is pretty much the only commercial aircraft that has been in production for as long as it has, without any major structural, propulsion and aerodynamic modifications. It retains the GE engines offered from very early on, for example. I did my school internship at an aircraft maintenance facility, where they do cargo conversions. There were 6 passenger 767s being converted and the facility had just delivered its 50th 767 conversion. What’s more, cargo carriers are still snapping up brand new ones (UPS just ordered 17) and some passenger airlines are struggling to replace it, all this shows how good an aircraft the 767 is.

I maintain the best solution to Boeing’s NMA is a re-engined 767, instead of the re-engined 757 everyone (avgeeks) seems to want. The existing 767 production line can be simply upgraded for the new plane, a 767-200 sized aircraft could offer wide body capacity and range, to match or even beat the A321XLR and Boeing would save a ton of time and money, compared to launching a “797”. Fingers crossed from a response from Boeing, cause Airbus are on a roll right now.

magnustan
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Great video. I liked the few times I've flown on the 767. Their economy layout of 2-3-2 made it seem more spacious. It was also the only airliner I had the chance to fly in Business Class on an upgrade...too bad it was only YYZ to YHZ.

robk
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Awesome. Please do a similar video for the Airbus A300, A310 and A318

theskyline
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The 767 line is still open because of the KC-46A tanker program and the 767-300F production. In fact, there is large demand for the 767-300F due to increasing demands of online retailers worldwide.

Sacto
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Still consider myself lucky to have flown on one of Delta’s 767-400ERs. The 764 is not a very common sight nowadays so I’m glad that I got the chance to fly on one.

EthanPricco
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My grandpa flew that 767 for TWA from BOS - CDG. One of my favourite things ever about him and *finally* found a video reference!

jonw
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The 767 used to be my favorite airplane, so it’s really sad for me to see them slowly fade away.

meik
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I like the 2-3-2 seating configuration in the premium economy section and even economy class, especially when I am traveling with someone.

alooga
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Flew on this plane twice, both times during a family vacation to Maui in 2011. Remember the take off was steeper than anything I experienced so far.

wrath
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Back in my business travel day out of MCO in the 80's, the Delta L-1011 was the equipment of choice. I would base my travel assignments around it. I would grumble when I had to get on lesser aircraft. Years went by and so did the L-1011. I finally settled down in the SF Bay area. Two trips to FRA and MAD in the 90's intro'd me to the 767/777. What wonderful replacements they turned out to be for the 1011. Sleeker models with nods back to the L-10. They are comfortable and spacious replacements.

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I'm not a huge 767 fan if I'm honest but I can still see that it has helped pave the way for most of the current wide body twin engined aircraft which now dominate the transcontinental market. It was the first aircraft to acquire ETOPS 180 so that's a massive achievement on its own.

gooner
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767 is kicking ass! Delta delayed it retirement again into late 2026-2028 depending on loads and replacement. No plane is a direct replacement.

reltney
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The footage was taken to show the Boeing 767 of American Airlines (1:34 to 1:44) was filmed at Porto Alegre International Airport (Salgado Filho), city where I live. Porto Alegre is the southern most capital of Brazil, close to Montevideo (Uruguay) and Buenos Aires (Argentina).

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I still think that whilst Boeing could upgrade the 767 with new engines etc, I don't think many airlines would take it. United would probably be the only large customer for the passenger version. The 757 has been out of production for 17 years so that wont be upgraded, the 737 cannot be updated again - it needs a new clean sheet design, and the 787 is too new to be upgraded yet - no one would buy it. If they were to upgrade any aircraft it would be the 767, but I think that the best option is for a clean sheet design, as it would probably put Airbus on the back foot, not just catch up to them, even if this will take longer.

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767-100/200 with new engines and wings from the 787 would fit the bill for the NMA. They already have the tooling and production facilities for it. Wouldn’t compete with any current Boeing offerings and is cheaper than a clean sheet 797. Or of course the elusive 757x would fit perfectly. I can dream.

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I think Boeing Could Re-engine, re-wing and give the modern sky interior to the 767 if they wanted to 👌

After all, Airbus did a similar thing with their A330 series, added A350 style wings and upgraded engines and gave her their modern AirSpace interior, to make the A330-800Neo and A330-900Neo, the latter obviously has been more popular.

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The 757 was deliberately developed at the same time as the 767 to give the two aircraft the same cockpit layout and similar flying characteristics to achieve a common type rating for pilots (at least at launch). That's why the 757 cockpit looks a bit weird - large 767 style glass on a 707/727/737 type fuselage.
As for any future 767 development - the 787 competes in the same market as the 767, so any future development will likely be from that platform.
Similarly, the 737-Max is now large enough to compete in the same market as the 757, which is why that has ceased production.

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