Claude 3 Haiku vs Sonnet vs Opus for Writing

Claude 3 Haiku is here. Let's compare it to its more powerful siblings, Claude 3 Sonnet and Claude 3 Opus.

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[BruceWayne]

I agree, Opus seems to be much better. I'll stick with Sonnet though simply because Opus is ridiculously expensive, and I'm going to rewrite most of the text that AI gives me anyway to ensure there's no plagiarism, and for copyright.

[susannaholdfield]

I'm super impressed with the improvement using Claude 3 Opus. The STYLE section in the super prompt is more closely followed and the outcome is so much better now.

[GenderPunkJezebelle]

The structure of the headlines with the colon in the middle is because AI tends to think that more complex sentence structures sound "sophisticated" and a lot of its fiction related training. Data is on public domain books where language was more like that.

The best way around it is to give it some example. Headlines in your prompt.

If you're going to one shot prompt, Give it at least a few examples toward the end

[JoshWalshMusic]

I see that Jumpstarter declaration back there. Glad to see a fellow CJSer in my feed. 😊

[iloveseattle]

Hey Jason, I'm having a big Claude 3 Sonnet problem and I wish you can help me with. I wrote beats and prompts for each beat. I use beat-prompt both in NovelCrafter Scene Beat, and Claude 3 Sonnet chat window (using Sonnet in both), each time, the chat writing results are much better and longer than NoveCrafter Scene Beat (API) results. I couldn't figure out why! I still wish to use API if it can give better results. Thank you for help!

[everybodylovessnoopy]

If someone were to use opus 3 in Novel Crafter for their entire novel (let's say 80 000 words), how much would it cost you (a range is fine)? I currently have Claude Pro and like Opus.

[davidridge]

Guys definitely join Jason's membership, the information and courses are second to none, more than well worth the monthly fee. He has zoom weekly calls where you can him anything about prompting, writing and anything Ai.

[ariekanibalie]

Haven't used Claude 3 in NC much, apart from an early test in a project I'm already working on. I wasn't too impressed: some glaring GPTisms, skipping over important information in the beat and not too creative. But I tried running the same parallel super prompt in the OR chat with both Sonnet and Opus and found the latter really excelled in creating the kind of free indirect thought/narrational interjections and backstory (i.e. alternating 'scene' and 'summary' writing a bit) that is the stuff of good fiction. The prose Sonnet generates is quite good, but it doesn't seem quite as competent at alternating between scene and summary and, unless prompted very specifically, seems a bit more superficial in its prose, sticking to who says or does what without the interiority of characters that Opus seems to do a little better.

[Wllb]

I have an account on Claude but I can't use Sonnet, only Haiku appears to me, while a friend has an account on Claude from which he can still use Sonnet.

Is there any update that is blocking the use of Sonnet or am I doing something wrong?

[Amy-Sparks]

So… is sonnet or opus officially better than 2.0?

[MagnusItland]

I mostly use AI for summary, so Haiku sounds like a good addition. Thanks!

[MrCrazymmogamer]

message limits on claude are insane. I heard pro version isnt better also, its impossible to write a book there when you getting out of message info after 20 messages. Any idea is there a way around it?

[eztheriumz]

Great video. Im now wondering if it's cheaper to just use open router, im signed up for caluade which is a flat rate. Using Novelcrafter sounds good but not sure if i should unsubscribe from claude and just use open router.

[markwaynemcginnis]

ha- never mind - found your video... :-)

[finalblur]

I think something like Opus is too hyperpowerful for regular writing - Anthropic described it as useful for:

Task automation: plan and execute complex actions across APIs and databases, interactive coding
R&D: research review, brainstorming and hypothesis generation, drug discovery
Strategy: advanced analysis of charts & graphs, financials and market trends, forecasting.

I doubt we'll get different results from the same prompt. Opus would be better when you ask it to do a lot of the research for you, or reference hundreds of authors/inputs into one coherent style. But it seems like Haiku could do the same thing and be faster and cheaper.