Do All Stardew Valley YouTubers Think the Same?

I have some phrases about Stardew Valley, the characters, and the future of the game. The four content creators I've selected need to decide if they agree or disagree with the statement. Will all of the YouTubers think alike? This is just part one, so if you enjoyed it, watch for the second!

Here's my friends that I featured!

Sections:
0:00 - Intro
0:38 - Pam does not deserve the House Upgrade
2:37 - Stardew Valley is a relaxing game
5:20 - The space for unique SV content is running out
9:57 - I would rather CA work on Haunted Chocolatier, than on Stardew Valley
12:38 - There are too many Stardew Valley-like games

Here's the lofi Stardew Valley music I use a lot:

[ellafrost]

I love that he start's off with "Don't worry, none of these questions can make you look bad" and the very first question is "does this person deserve a house" lol

[ghostlevelzero]

I 100% agree with Seanie about stardew not being relaxing. I died laughing as he described my Wiki- forward play style. I've even kept notebooks to keep track of what I needed to do!

[theremnantsofpineconepast]

5:00 i actually had a BREAKDOWN when i first played stardew cuz everyone always said how relaxing and cozy it was and i was midway through spring going “what do i do where do i put these where are the mines how do i do everything in this tiny time frame” so that is RELATABLE 🤣 once i got the hang of it tho it’s def become way more relaxing

[ArgonMatrix]

Never had so much fun disagreeing with people before. 💖

[SeanieDew]

guys plz don’t hate me for my hot takes

[MizYin]

The BIGGEST of kudos to Argon for hitting that Pam question with the first thought I had. EVERYONE deserves to be housed. I do wanna remind 'em though...Linus explicitly turns down housing in a cutscene! If there was an option to build him a house, I think he'd be rather cross with us for taking it! :0

[cloud__]

2 - Seanie is right with Stardew being stressful for the average first time players - it does get more relaxing once you get the hang of it and you have sprinkler system in place lol

[QuoteIzkewl]

That discussion Seanie and Argon had was really great to see, no hatred, just genuine debate. Argon going "counterpoint" during the content discussion and the Ace Attorney music kicking in was easily my favorite part of the video haha

[jasperjazzie]

i love how seanie just has no idea what is happening at any given time, he's so great

[DMiNChAn]

Regarding the last point: Personally, coming from The Sims community, a type of game with absolutely NO competition (as of yet), I'm just glad that there's seemingly no end in sight for cozy/farming inspired games. Sure, most of them might be a bit formulaic or even ugly to look at/uninspired, whatever, but at least they exist, you know? At least people have a choice to check those games out and decide if they like these "Stardew but in the stone age" / "Stardew but in space" kinda games; maybe even better than Stardew. I see absolutely no issue here. It'd be much more disappointing for SV to be the only farming game to ever exist and be considered the pinnacle of all "farming games", when Harvest Moon and Rune Factory came long before it, which most people seem to conveniently forget. Happy to at least hear Charlie akcnowledging this as well 💕

[onionskin]

Seanie Dew is so wise here and clearly showed his critical thinking. Very smart

[Sumguyinavan_]

1) Pam's an alcoholic jerk, but she's not so bad that she doesn't deserve a home, especially if we are gifting it to her and Penny with our "more money than we could ever spend"
2) Stardew is as relaxing as you choose to make it. You don't HAVE to be efficient, you don't have to reach 100%, you don't have to see and do everything the game has to offer by the end of your 3rd year.
3) As long as people are watching, there is room. The field oversaturated while it was at peak popularity, but it will always have a niche for fans and new players looking to learn. Current streamers/youtubers will move on or stick with it, its not likely to continue to bloat
4) There comes a time to let the developer move on with their lives and let expansions be done by a passionate modding community. CA could choose to cooperate with those modders and put in polished mods which enhance the experience as official content in future updates
5) There are always clones of every popular game, the ones that are good get larger followings, the ones that aren't die pretty quickly. But let people make what they want to make, play what they want to play.

[no-thanku]

I'm so glad Charlie brought up Harvest Moon for the last point, it annoys me so much when people act like Stardew was some sort of new and unique idea that had never been done before. I mean people will literally complain that Story of Seasons A Wonderful Life or Rune Factory 3 are somehow Stardew ripoffs, despite being remake/remasters of games that were made YEARS before Stardew came out.

Plus I mean, if you grew up playing the Bokumono series like I did, you were used to a new farming sim coming out every couple of years or so, with it's own new spin. Don't get me wrong, I love Stardew Valley, but to me it's one in a long list of farming sims I love, and hardly more unique than most Bokumono games were to each other.

That being said, I do agree that there are certain games that feel a little too samey to Stardew, but when people label farming sims on the whole as "Stardew-like games" it completely erases the long history of the genre. (Not that I'm saying Salmence is doing that, he chose the question based on what other people have frequently been saying.)

[GeoQuag]

I frequently play Stardew on multiplayer and I think that often reduces some of the stress of the game. You can’t spend more time on wikis than in game when the day can’t be paused.

It is probably good to give a small guide for newer players though so they can complete the important parts of the community center (greenhouse *cough*) at a rate that doesn’t cause them to have to wait a full year because they didn’t know they HAD to plant that crop

[peeblekitty]

I love that most of the response to "should concernedape work on haunted chocolatier or more stardew" was "whatever he wants to do". So many gaming communities are really toxic towards the developer(s) (and each other) and it's reassuring to see one that's so wholesome and has respect for the dev as a person, not just a source of content.

[farmerphern]

I do wish for one more uodate to Stardew, an NPC overhaul update. I'd love to see some character arcs be more explored in cannon.
What happened after Clint and Emily went on a date to the Grampleton Fair?
Why do Pam and Shane still love Beer after they've supposedly started working on their addiction?
Can we have Pierre spend more time with his family after a certain amount of hearts/heart event?
Things like these, I'd love to see them explored in cannon, not just in mods.

[opekamma]

13:00 Charlie repping my exact thought process, down to swaying from disagreeing to agreeing. CA loved Harvest Moon so much Stardew Valley happened bc there was a version of Harvest Moon CA wanted to see.

As somebody who grew up with the Harvest Moon series as their special interest, I'm between thriving and drowning tbh. Of course the downside of Stardew Valley being such a pride and joy IS the cash-grab copies from people who see the gaming trend. On the other hand, more people who grew up playing every version of Bokujo Monogatori they could get their hands on saw that if they have their perfect version of Harvest Moon that they want to see and are willing and able to make it, it CAN be fiscally viable. Stardew proved that people like the GENRE, not just Bokujo Monogatori or Rune Factory or other adjacent Marvelous Inc. had their hand on.

[Raina]

The irony of Story of Seasons being shown when 'there are too many stardew like games' when Story of Seasons is Harvest Moon, and thus Stardew is actually inspired by IT.
Honestly, saying there are too many stardew like games is like saying there are too many shooters or puzzle games or dating sims, or too many fan fictions about running coffee shops. There are never too many, spoil me for choice.

[BluejaySerenade]

I think there's a big difference between stardew inspired games and ripoffs. For example, people have compared stardew valley to cattails, a game I've played since 2018. Cattails and Stardew Valley have similarities like being pixelated, indie developed, and have romanceable npcs, but there's not much common ground if you look at both games as a whole. I started playing Stardew back in 2020 because it was compared to Cattails and other games I enjoyed, but there's huge differences. Saying things like Cattails are "ripoffs" really takes away from the creators creativity and ideas. And plus Cattails is more based off of the series Warriors than stardew valley anyway. And Cattails: Wildwood, the sequel game I've alpha tested since august last year, expands even more on Cattails. Anyway, while these games appeal to similar crowds, they're very diverse and we don't need to compare them because that takes away from both Concerned Ape and Falcon's (the cattails dev) creativity.

[magicalmims]

I loved this! I follow all these creators and this was so fun to see. I love discussions about a shared topic that doesnt get mean. And great job makin the little room so visually clear and similar to those types of videos! 10/10 Can't wait for part 2 \o/