Retelling the Greatest Story Ever Told | Dallas Jenkins | EP 509

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with “The Chosen” creator and showrunner Dallas Jenkins. Set in the house of Caiaphas, they discuss Dallas’ early failures and the transformative experiences that led him to bring forth the most important story ever told. They discuss proper sacrifice, intention, and offering, the role of the Herald in the modern day, and how to honor Jesus as both God and man.

This episode was filmed on December 10th, 2024.

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(0:00) Coming up
(0:51) Intro
(4:09) Discussing “The Chosen” in the house of Caiaphas
(6:38) “Birthed from failure,” recognizing calling over temptation
(13:20) Coming to terms with failure, the feeding of the 5,000
(20:34) Then came a miracle
(29:10) Realization and proper sacrifice
(34:22) The relationship between truth and adventure
(37:37) Finding direction without it hinging on the destination
(46:11) Dallas’ first project with Jonathan Roumie, why most religious films fail
(51:11) Atheism and the belief in evil
(52:02) The manifestation of calling, Dostoevsky and the two thieves on the cross
(1:00:59) Fleshing out the stories of the Bible
(1:06:00) Honoring the text through the adaptation — the fidelity of scripture
(1:07:44) “Are you a prophet?”
(1:13:15) Working for the right reasons and dispelling with reputation
(1:18:17) Proper offering: how a shelved short film led Dallas to Angel Studios
(1:29:30) The formality of religion can sometimes distance us from God, “taking Jesus down from the stained glass windows”
(1:30:52) Jordan’s thoughts on “The Chosen”
(1:36:23) Series have a tendency to wane, why “The Chosen” will only get better

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[DallasJenkinsOfficial]

One of my favorite conversations of my career.

[GhostEliteReacts]

Spent 35 years of my life not believing in anything. I started watching Jordan Peterson and it sparked a curiosity, then I see a scene from The Chosen and it made me want to see more scenes, then I watched the 4 seasons lol. Now I have a Bible, and I spend every night after I put my son to bed either reading the bible or listening to someone speak on scriptures. I am so glad God put the two men in my path to guide me towards the truth. Jesus Christ is my lord and savior, and I wouldn't have ever known this if it wasn't for these 2 men. So, I truly want to thank you both from the deepest part of my heart. God bless you both.

[solomonmachado]

“ I’m gonna pretend that I know what you just said.” Dallas just represented all of Jordan Peterson‘s interviewees

[DaeJoyHana]

I had such a hard time feeling what happened in the bible because I'm a visual learner, and I somehow saw a reel of The Chosen and I watched it, and it encouraged me to learn about God and what Jesus did for me. After almost 30 years of being a buddhist, I am now a follower of Christ.

[KathaleenEM]

The Chosen, to me, shows Jesus' humanity without diminishing His divinity. So beautifully done!

[Tathagata]

I hadn’t heard of The Chosen until a week ago. I’m halfway through the 4th season already

[jonetaniratutokarua]

Y'know, something about this conversation really struck me. For the past three years, I've submerged myself deep into the world of politics, law, debates, history, religion and apologetics, watching and listening to intellectuals such as Dr. Peterson, Ben Shapiro and the DailyWire, Orthodox theologians, Sam Shamoun, David Wood, Cliff Knectly, Charlie Kirk and so many others. However, listening to Dallas in this conversation, reminded me of a simpler time in my life, a time when it wasn't about conceptualising Christianity intellectually, but rather having Christ's words strike my heart and ignite my spirit. I worry that I've become too much of an apologist for Christianity that I've forgotten how to evangelise the Gospel with grace and truth. Like, I've become too religious and too caught up in theology that I've lost sight of what is actually important, the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I do believe we need both, evangelism and apologetics. Some of us a called to share the gospel, others to defend it. But I will admit, after years of apologetics and theology, it was like a breath of fresh air listening to Dallas just share his faith, and story providing his little loaves and fish to the table. It was also thrilling to see Jordan smile a lot and dare I say it looked like he was having fun and really enjoying this different type of conversation with Dallas. Anywho, I can't wait for season 5. Merry Christmas everyone.

[jamieszuba]

Peterson the logical guy with millions of followers is opening a door to millions . Dallas has been chosen for this moment to gather Peterson audience that don't believe. We are having a revival, a gathering in the end times.

[Kim-mdhk]

I wonder how many of us are praying for Jordan Peterson ✋️our prayers are being progressively answered. Jordan is on the edge of salvation. Yet even as he debates & wrestles, he is already being used by God to lead many intellectuals to Jesus. Amazing!

[pshamrock]

The Chosen is my favorite show of all time. The way Mr. Jenkins has remained true to the scripture while expanding the form without altering meaning and operating with pure intent is the exact way we are supposed to experience the word of the living God.

[YouAdam]

When you've been following these people separately and all of a sudden you see them sitting together to talk, it's making my whole brain come together as if it was decided 😅 - so amazing.

[KeithGilmore]

I don't think I'm alone when I say this, but I believe Dallas is the best & most overlooked storyteller of the bible, in the 21st century, because he has communicated the truest heart of Jesus that the world has been longing to know.

[SynTheoria]

“Doing it FOR him, not doing it WITH him”

I really needed to hear this. What a profound revelation.

[leafsfanmike]

For those who have never watched the chosen…it is possibly the greatest show ever created weather you are a believer or not

[nataliegracebelle]

I read Jordan Peterson's book 12 Rules for Life in 2019, and it changed my life. I bought my first bible that summer and soon my curiosity for knowledge grew into a genuine desire for faith. And then discovering The Chosen last year was just the greatest blessing to nourishing my faith in Jesus.

So thank you both, truly. I just last week shared my faith story in my latest video/podcast where I credit Jordan Peterson and literally say, "If by chance, Jordan Peterson miraculously sees this, I need to say Thank You!"

God bless you both.

[ronyeahwiggie]

As one who only very recently has discovered "The Chosen", this conversation was a true joy to watch and listen to.

[elsemariecunningham]

What an incredible interview that inspired me as a writer. As Dallas stated that what God was saying, "I don't care what you're doing for me, I care that your doing it WITH ME".

[DennisLNun]

We found THE CHOSEN in 2020 after Covid 19 locked our lives down AND the unexpected loss of our son. We ended up watching the 1st season 10 times and began supporting the funding of future seasons… as well as being extras in the Sermon on the mount, the feeding of the 5, 000 and Season 5 episode 2 when Jesus cleared the temple. Thank you Dallas & Co. for the amazing story telling that humanizes Jesus & His disciples!!!

[_BamBam]

The Chosen is a once in a lifetime experience. Thank you Dallas!

[GailRidlington]

2 of my favourite people talking about my God and his son….perfection! Thanks Jordan, Dallas