Is Beauty Really Subjective? with Marjo Uotila

Marjo Uotila tells about the common myth and fallacy that we shouldn't built beautiful because beautiful is too subjective.

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Music: Altered Fate by Cody Martin:
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[firebird]

Love this from Kolkata 🇮🇳
This City also have this type of classical Traditional Buildings
But very poorly maintained.

[Architektenpapst]

Architecture IS a matter of taste.

But just as with music, there is an instinctive understanding of rhythm, proportion and rules for harmony and beauty. When a great master of music gets carried away, even the amateurs notice it immediately. It is the same with architecture. One may prefer classical music or modern electro-pop - as long as the basic rules are respected. In urban planning, architecture is not just a song in its own right, but part of an event. What counts here is how well the individual note fits into the whole. In view of our fast-moving times, in which short attention seems to count more than long-term harmony, architects find it difficult to fit their designs in - because then they won't stand out.

By ignoring harmonious architecture, are we at the same time creating the sheer ugliness of modern buildings by forcing architects to impose themselves on us through their crazy i

[hadrianhexe]

Yea no, i'd say it's less something natural and more something taught. We're largely influenced by the people around us and because of it, unless we feel something very strongly, it's likely to fall in line with our peers. After all, if you grow up and for instance blue eyes are constantly touted as the ideal, unless you really find blue eyes creepy, chances are you're gonna view them as the pinnacle of beauty

[rn]

And a general question: it seems fairly easy to metaphysically ground beauty if Platonism (existence of ideas) or Aristotelianism (hylemorphism, ideas "in the things") is true. But how would you metaphysically ground beauty in e.g. Nominalism?

[rn]

I agree that there is objective beauty. But does it follow from the fact that the majority agrees that certain buildings are beautiful or ugly that beauty is objective? It could STILL be subjective, just that (e.g. due to culture or evolution) certain criteria of what is beautiful have "somehow" manifested themselves as the most common.

So how would you argue for objective beauty based on your research?

[MrAllallalla]

Yeah might makes right. Popular is not objectively good