12 SPEED CHINESE ELECTRONIC GROUPSET (RIDE REVIEW) *eRX L-TWOO*

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0:00 intro
1:25 first impressions of group
3:31 first noticed problems with group
4:20 groupset failing on me
5:05 DIFFERENCES BETWEEN GROUPS
7:30 rear derailer is different
9:10 how has it performed over 1000km
11:53 negatives of the group
12:12 USER interface for phone APP
14:50 HOW DOES IT RIDE IN THE RAIN?
16:13 BATTERY charge longevity
17:00 how they can dominate shimano and sram
18:11 peak torque about product releases

[GCPerformance]

What do you guys think, should I do another high end build with that group or should I give away to my viewers? Let me know!!

[becyk_du_quebec]

A rim brake upgrade kit (so shifters + derailleurs) would be amazing I think, there would definitely be a market for that...

[yisraels]

The ability to switch between 10-11-12 rear clusters is fantastic, just keep an old 10 speed cluster on the turbo, and if they have designed the app correctly it should be super easy to swap between road and turbo use. To really take advantage of this, they should just have the option to set up different rear wheels.. so you could swap between turbo, 60mm, winter wheel etc all with their own indexing saved.

[AbielRuiz]

They sent me a new battery case to solve the same issue and it's been flawless since. It's been a pleasure dealing with them and I think they've got a bright future. the shifting speed on this thing is mental!! I have other bikes with Di2 and Sram wireless and ltwoo shifts faster. Going to be offering it to my customers on custom builds soon.

[davekashuba]

What I learned more than anything here is to never ask Grant to keep a secret.

[sigma]

I love how he is all showing the ankle in the shop, and just goes fully monty in the outdoor footage

[johnp]

Yes. Since I received the replacement rear derailleur it’s been running perfectly. I’ve ridden probably 600 km on it now and it’s been slick and smooth. If it keeps this way look out Shimano and SRAM.

[yisraels]

The problem with some Chinese companies trying to break into western markets is that they aren't quite ready with customer service and quality control. This seems to be a product with real potential. LTwoo just neededs to get their act together with QC and product development.

[ricardofernandes]

At the moment I can buy the Shimano 105 Di2 complete group for 850.-Swiss francs online. I see no reason to buy an L-Twoo for 650.- without cassette and crankset. With shimano you know what you're getting and if something goes wrong you'll find replacement parts everywhere.

[IanCoveny]

If you’re thinking of L-Twoo, I cannot strongly enough recommend against it. I have two group sets, the RX and the GR9, and they’ve been a disaster. Unfortunately, I don’t have the platform that GC/Panda/Trace has, so L-Twoo just dgaf about my issues, and I’ve been stuck having to replace both with Shimano/SRAM. All-in, I’m out 2x what I would’ve been just going mainstream in the first place.

[roeboeski]

Here in Belgium, it costs 820 (without tax) euros and you still need to buy a crank, cassette, chain and rotors. And a 105 di2 is only 250 euros more expensive with everything included. Im not sure why anyone in europe would want this...

[thekeytoairpower]

I have tiagra 10s hydraulic on my giant Defy.
I mean, it came with Tiagra mechanical shifters that were paired with what appears to be a giant in house master cylinder mounted to the stem and trp calipers.
Point is I swapped my shifters and brakes to hydraulic Tiagra. And my rear derailleur to 105.

[numeronolla]

I love the fact that you need to slide the foam back to cover the logo of the frame :)))

[BARTHEZ]

There are other 10-speed hydraulic groupsets but actually you just have one on this bike. You just need 10-speed cassette (+chain and chainrings). Nice thing to have.

[Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding]

I must be missing something, but I don't understand why everyone talks of the "incredible value" of the L-TWOO. So it is around $1000-1300 AUD. For that you get two handles and two derailleurs (not a complete groupset). Ok, and two brake calipers but that's small things. If you look at shimano 105 two handles will be around $300-400 each, plus the rear derailleur another 300-400... Front derailleur around $150. That is just normal price, without bargain hunting too much... So that's very roughly around $1500 for the 105. If you run 1x and if you do some bargain hunting obviously a lot cheaper for Shimano. And with L-TWOO you can not really get it any cheaper. So why would one get L-TWOO instead of 105 di2 if the price is so close?

[limweiseong]

there is a latest software update release on 27 Dec in the LTwoo app and it seemingly fixed most of my FD sleep on ride and RD missing shifts issues! sure took them a long while!

[larrypupkin]

Seems it’s good to be a YouTuber, as I’ve had nothing but issues with an R9 group set via their official Ali Express account and support has been lousy. They did send me a short video to show the brake cable seat location in the shifter, but no feedback re issues I primarily have with the left shifter and front derailleur. I’d love to try the eRX on a more premium build I plan, but it seems safer for a similar price to stick to 105.

[sphinxter]

Im really glad you reviewed this. Thank you so much. I want to try them out

[haroldpqz]

One thing I found interesting with LTWOO is. If they can make it 11-12 speed without having to buy a groupset. Shimano and SRAM could do it too, but clearly its another way to make money for big brands.

[chriscc]

Tiagra was Hydro 10s and there is actually an LT-Woo mechanical Hydro 1x10 gravel groupset too (GR7) .